FRED HALE SR.

Last 30 years of hardcore out the door? You just lost all credibility with that argument. I've found most straight edger's in my life to be the immature type honestly. Fundamental like Black Flag? D.R.I.? Slayer? MDC? AGRESSION? ICONS OF FILTH? A//SOLUTION? RKL? Oh wait all those bands aren't Straight Edge. Shall we continue the discussion?

Queen Boo

Was one of your parents an alcoholic or a druggie?

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BTown

dude everyone knows what straight edge is. everyone just thinks youre a douche

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Now that you've got the drink & the drugs thing done with your straight edge stuff. If you're all for self improvement may I suggest you do something about your people skills next.

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s_k

Hmm... if I were a mod I'd close this topic about... now.
Mods?

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Queen Boo

I wanna know if his mommy got drunk and shoved his Hot Wheels up her vajay first.

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Dirty

Few things more annoying to me than someone asking for a topic to be closed. James is a repeat offender.

Straight edge dude, people are probably being too harsh on you here. My beef with straight edge is that people feel the need to declare themselves straight edge. It comes off as putting yourself on some sort of pedestal. It's just as annoying as people who brag about drinking and using. I don't give a shit if someone doesn't wanna drink but what's the point in declaring it so loudly??

clutnuckle

Four pages of posts are unnecessary. This has it all.

The angry cynic in me says:

Because they're typically self-righteous suburban basement-dwellers who feel the need to create enemies in order to feel as though they're fighting against something (when they could logically spend their time fighting against something that actually matters and already EXISTS, like <insert generic comment about poverty/racism/homelessness here>). So they choose an easy way out. "Drugs? Well, plenty of subcultures (many religions among them) already despise these things illogically, so me announcing myself against drugs makes me SEEM totally, like punk brah, even though it's one of the easiest things in the world to be against." It's been said before - the LAST people who should be talking about drugs are those who have never taken them. Thus, this entire movement is typically filled with sheep who make ridiculous blanket statements about drugs. The only exception are those who DID do drugs but gave up on it, and even in that case, I really couldn't give less of a **** about what those people have to say.

However, the logical, understanding person in me says:

They probably feel as though drugs and alcohol are getting a lot of airplay and commercialization nowadays (tons of alcohol advertisements, commercializing drugs, more and more music is professing to the use of it in lyrics), and they feel the best way to combat these constant pro-drug announcements is to speak out against them in a self-indulgent, self-absorbed way. A lot like how many Atheists announce their Atheism because they feel like religion sort of corners them into fighting back, because it's everywhere (and vice versa; for example a lot of Christians feel like the world is too secular now and therefore announce and even force their beliefs upon others more forcefully now).

s_k

Few things more annoying to me than seeing a topic go downhill and watching it go into one big flame war while it could have been closed before that happened. Sorry mate .

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Dirty

You could always just not open the thread. You are probably the one person on this forum who I would vote most likely to continue a pointless conversation on MB. Yes, I know that's ironic since I am kinda doing that now. But keep fighting the good fight s_k!!!!!