Sonic Youth, Man

lucifer_sam · 08-28-2008, 07:25 PM

Or...not. Daydream Nation might be Sonic Youth's apex but it wasn't a seminal album by any means. I like it, it turned me onto Sonic Youth, but god, sometimes their post-punk pretentious attitude pisses the shit out of me.

Minstrel · 08-28-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Or...not.

Sure, in your opinion. In my opinion, it is quite amazing. I don't know if I'd call it seminal, as that implies ground-breaking to me. But ultimately, ground-breaking isn't all that important to me. Great music is, and I think Daydream Nation is some of the best music ever recorded.

lucifer_sam · 08-28-2008, 08:07 PM

Teenage Riot along with a few other songs are pretty sick. But the shit that Kim Gordon sang lead on just pissed me off. It wasn't good. It wasn't even punk music. It was a woman with a shitty voice emit equally shitty phrases. The point being that I think there are far more important early alternative albums. Faith No More's Angel Dust is as close to perfection as they come.

I respect Sonic Youth. I think it's great that they were there after punk had taken its turn to lead rock music into a new direction. But musically great? Not really.

5-Track · 10-04-2008, 11:39 PM

"Important" doesn't make a lot of difference to me... Their early stuff is very cool and stands up to time, whether I want to hear it on a given day is very much dependent on my mood as the production (due partly to budget and partly to 'tude) is pretty weak. I do like to stone out to their tones, but the darkness of their early work (lyrically, mostly) tends to put me off. What can I say - I'm just not that dark a dude!

"Daydream Nation" eluded me for years after I bought it, then it occurred to me to break the CD up into sides (not literally...) Play it in the original vinyl running order... Songs 1-3, then 4-6, 7-10, and 11-12. Suddenly it all made sense. Great album.

I suspect I'll get into "Sister" and "Goo" when my budget allows for it... Meanwhile I seem to like all their stuff on Geffen/DGC that I've heard (Murray Street, Sonic Nurse and Rather Ripped, with Sonic Nurse being probably my favorite, ESPECIALLY Kim's luscious vocal on "I Love You Golden Blue") and also their improv albums on SYR - really beautiful, if you don't require songs, which I don't always. Although their recent songwriting has been really, really good! In fact I am momentarily obsessed with a song from "Murray Street" called "Disconnection Notice" -

"Did you get your disconnection notice? I received mine yesterday. They seem to think I'm disconnected, don't know what to think or do or say..." Beautiful. And sums up how I feel just at the moment.

Obviously I like this band... Someday it would be fun to see them live. I'm curious what they'll do next, now they're back on Matador and off the Geffen monolith.

Molecules · 10-06-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Teenage Riot along with a few other songs are pretty sick. But the shit that Kim Gordon sang lead on just pissed me off. It wasn't good. It wasn't even punk music. It was a woman with a shitty voice emit equally shitty phrases. The point being that I think there are far more important early alternative albums. Faith No More's Angel Dust is as close to perfection as they come.

I respect Sonic Youth. I think it's great that they were there after punk had taken its turn to lead rock music into a new direction. But musically great? Not really.

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GravitySlips · 10-20-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Faith No More's Angel Dust is as close to perfection as they come.

lol

anyway yeah, daydream nation is definitely a seminal rock album. anyone who says otherwise is pretty much entirely incorrect!

henry · 10-20-2008, 08:52 PM

anyone know where I can get the Dirty album? Its not in my local music store, any download possible?

Pornographie Nouveau · 11-27-2008, 11:35 AM

Daydream Nation is brilliant. It's definitely not overrated. Their other albums are good too, I have EVOL, Sister and Goo as well, but they don't quite live up to Daydream Nation.

~~Farfisa~~ · 11-27-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornographie Nouveau

Daydream Nation is brilliant.

Great choice of words my friend

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GravitySlips · 11-27-2008, 11:31 PM

i'm tired of uninformed people talking ****e about sonic youth. listen to all their albums you mofos!

08-28-2008, 07:25 PM	#201 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Or...not. Daydream Nation might be Sonic Youth's apex but it wasn't a seminal album by any means. I like it, it turned me onto Sonic Youth, but god, sometimes their post-punk pretentious attitude pisses the shit out of me. __________________ first.am

08-28-2008, 08:07 PM	#203 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Teenage Riot along with a few other songs are pretty sick. But the shit that Kim Gordon sang lead on just pissed me off. It wasn't good. It wasn't even punk music. It was a woman with a shitty voice emit equally shitty phrases. The point being that I think there are far more important early alternative albums. Faith No More's Angel Dust is as close to perfection as they come. I respect Sonic Youth. I think it's great that they were there after punk had taken its turn to lead rock music into a new direction. But musically great? Not really. __________________ first.am

10-04-2008, 11:39 PM	#204 (permalink)
5-Track Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Echo Park, Earth Posts: 197	"Important" doesn't make a lot of difference to me... Their early stuff is very cool and stands up to time, whether I want to hear it on a given day is very much dependent on my mood as the production (due partly to budget and partly to 'tude) is pretty weak. I do like to stone out to their tones, but the darkness of their early work (lyrically, mostly) tends to put me off. What can I say - I'm just not that dark a dude! "Daydream Nation" eluded me for years after I bought it, then it occurred to me to break the CD up into sides (not literally...) Play it in the original vinyl running order... Songs 1-3, then 4-6, 7-10, and 11-12. Suddenly it all made sense. Great album. I suspect I'll get into "Sister" and "Goo" when my budget allows for it... Meanwhile I seem to like all their stuff on Geffen/DGC that I've heard (Murray Street, Sonic Nurse and Rather Ripped, with Sonic Nurse being probably my favorite, ESPECIALLY Kim's luscious vocal on "I Love You Golden Blue") and also their improv albums on SYR - really beautiful, if you don't require songs, which I don't always. Although their recent songwriting has been really, really good! In fact I am momentarily obsessed with a song from "Murray Street" called "Disconnection Notice" - "Did you get your disconnection notice? I received mine yesterday. They seem to think I'm disconnected, don't know what to think or do or say..." Beautiful. And sums up how I feel just at the moment. Obviously I like this band... Someday it would be fun to see them live. I'm curious what they'll do next, now they're back on Matador and off the Geffen monolith. __________________ music for your life: http://www.5-Track.com/NeptuneResearch

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henry Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 112	anyone know where I can get the Dirty album? Its not in my local music store, any download possible?

11-27-2008, 11:35 AM	#208 (permalink)
Pornographie Nouveau Hip Priest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 302	Daydream Nation is brilliant. It's definitely not overrated. Their other albums are good too, I have EVOL, Sister and Goo as well, but they don't quite live up to Daydream Nation.

11-27-2008, 11:31 PM	#210 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	i'm tired of uninformed people talking ****e about sonic youth. listen to all their albums you mofos!