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DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-08-2013 06:07 PM

The Grizzly Bear thread
 
Alright, so this past week I've gotten into Grizzly Bear. Had very briefly checked out a few of their songs before, but it wasn't until several days ago when I happened to click on a 'recommended song' link on Youtube while listening to a Panda Bear tune, that I listened to them intently. That recommended song happened to be Easier which, among all Grizzly Bear songs, is definitely the one which was going to jump out at me the most. So the magic of Youtube has gotten me into Grizzly Bear.

After now listening to Yellow House about 6 or 7 times, Veckatimest probably 5 to 6 times, and Shields 3 or 4 times, here are my observations (I still haven't really checked out Horn of Plenty too much yet):

If Animal Collective is kinda sorta the Yes of the 21st Century, Grizzly Bear is kinda sorta the Pink Floyd of the 21st Century. In fact, I can't help but wonder if the denizens of fans who are keeping The Dark Side of the Moon appearing in the Billboard Top 200 now and then even 40 years after its release would stumble across Grizzly Bear more often, that Grizzly Bear would be a more popular band than they currently are?

Anyway, my impression after several listens is that Grizzly Bear is very artsy rock. Except for a song here and there (such as Easier and About Face with me), I doubt Grizzly Bear is going to have much appeal to most people after just one listen.

The obvious progression of their songs and albums is that Yellow House started off almost as a folk-rock album, but they've progressively gone away from that. Personally I really like their acoustic/melodic stuff, so the progression is a bit disappointing to me. On the other hand, I can hear their songwriting mature over the course of the three albums. Yellow House has a few songs which have jumps from acoustic to loud segments which are rather awkward and don't quite work well, whereas their next two albums don't have that problem nearly as much.

And yet, I still find that Yellow House has only 1 or 2 songs that drag and make me want to skip it, while Veckatimest has probably 2 or 3, and Shields has 4 or 5. So it's a mixed bag. Some aspects of their songwriting have gotten better over the course of their albums, while other aspects have gotten worse.

Personally I'd like to see their next album do another folk-rock type thing. Would be nice to see if they could do an improvement over Yellow House.

Surell 09-08-2013 07:44 PM

If they keep progressing like they have, I think they might emphasize the electronic element that mostly underlies their music but is huge on their label (Warp), or maybe they'll go for the jazz that supports much of their sound. Personally, I think where they are now is perfect, having moved from shy bits of psych-ish folk to the more low-key prog indie they have now, but that's just my taste, as I don't dabble a whole lot in the realm of folk.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-08-2013 09:01 PM

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I did notice one track on Shields did sound very jazz-ish ("What's Wrong").

The standout song on that album is definitely the first one, though.

BTW I could *swear* I've heard "Two Weeks" somewhere before I'd even heard of this band. It sounds like a soundtrack to a movie, or something. Either that or it sounds a lot like some other movie soundtrack song.

Surell 09-08-2013 09:09 PM

"Yet Again" is kinda jazzy too, at least in the drumming. "Sleeping Ute" is great, I really just love the whole album, i feel like every moment is essential.

"Two Weeks" was really popular when it came out, it may be that, but I don't know bout it being in a movie, or any other song that may sound like it.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-08-2013 09:11 PM

Maybe this is what I'm thinking of???





Kinda sorta vaguely similar.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-08-2013 09:40 PM

BTW, this may sound weird, but when I was listening to Shields in the car today, in one of these odd deja-vu epiphany moments, I felt like I was listening to Shostakovich!


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You'd have to listen to a whole bunch of Shostakovich to understand, but the melodies of Grizzly Bear reminded me of the somber, somewhat rambling but narrow-ranged melodies of much of Shostakovich's work, particularly his symphonies. Plus the way they often build up to these big climaxes, or suddenly get loud out of nowhere.

Surell 09-09-2013 01:12 AM

The whole crescendo type of sound you're talking about is also very big with Post-Rock bands, such as Explosions in the Sky or Godspeed You! Black Emperor and I think Mogwai; I'm only familiar with the first band, but I can testify that their songwriting ethos is ambient rock music building to great heights from hushed lows. That composer may very well be a favorite of these bands; Classical and avant-garde forms of music are usually a good source of inspiration for these bands.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-09-2013 01:48 PM

Couple more things I wanted to add before I forget ...

1) One of their lead singers sounds a lot like David Bowie on many of their songs
2. The song endings. They just ... die. Ends with a whimper, not a bang. After I noticed this for several songs, I thought it was just a case of bad song writing. But then I noticed that nearly every song does it (or, at least 80%), which made me realize they did it on purpose. So now when I hear one of these endings I usually chuckle.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-10-2013 12:21 AM

Hmm, I don't recall seeing this commercial, however. It was Super Bowl-only.

I basically haven't listened to pop music radio since sometime in the 90's so it's not like I've heard this song on the radio.


Pastor of Muppets 09-12-2013 10:50 AM



Ed Droste singing with Robin Pecknold from Fleet Foxes. Hope you enjoy.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-12-2013 08:43 PM

^
Very pretty!

scrapfriends 09-13-2013 03:57 AM

The Grizzlies have some late picks this year, but that doesn't mean there's no fun to be had.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-21-2013 05:05 PM

Imagine being the cabby and being treated to this!


Exo 09-21-2013 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1365022)
If Animal Collective is kinda sorta the Yes of the 21st Century, Grizzly Bear is kinda sorta the Pink Floyd of the 21st Century.

This is insane.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-21-2013 05:48 PM

Well, maybe. I admit the analogies weren't perfect.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-26-2013 07:50 PM

Beautiful cover!


bulbasaur 09-29-2013 06:57 AM

i never really got into grizzly bear as much as i maybe should have. other than yellow house, i haven't really listened to a grizzly bear full-length. i absolutely love knife though; i remember listening to that often when we had free time with the computers at school.

two weeks was also pretty cool, but i didn't really give an honest listen to veckatimest. i breezed through it mostly; i'll probably go back and listen just because of this thread. shields too.

i think the friend ep is great though. their take away show is also enjoyable

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-29-2013 06:45 PM

Veckatimest has really grown on me. When I first listened to it I thought "meh," though deep down I sensed it might be something I could like better if I listened to it more. Now, after maybe 10 listens or so, I think it's a fantastic album.

Surell 09-29-2013 07:57 PM

Still no love for Shields though?

and speaking of Yes:


DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 09-29-2013 09:26 PM

Shields had gotten better - and in one sense I think it might have the most sophisticated songwriting - but it still trails behind Yellow House and Veckatimest in my book.

bulbasaur 10-14-2013 02:17 AM

on a related note, this is cool


DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 04-15-2015 07:02 PM

They're starting to work on new material!

Grizzly Bear Working on New Music, Ed Droste Discusses "More Adventurous" New Direction
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Grizzly Bear's Ed Droste sat down for a revealing interview with The Standard about his personal life (via Stereogum). He also discussed the current state of his band, saying they've started working on new music. Apparently, the band are heading in a different aesthetic direction.

"We’re feeling more adventurous with the sonic directions, changing it up a little bit—not, like, a techno dance album," he said. "It’s in the beginning stages. Only a couple songs have started to take shape and it’s gotta be like, a good dozen or so before we get the picture.”

Justthefacts 04-16-2015 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1373378)
on a related note, this is cool


:beer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1577377)

:clap::clap::clap:

FLACCIDDISKS 05-23-2015 02:51 AM

I think Grizzly Bear's cover of Hot Chip's "Boy From School" is one of my favourite covers of all time.

NicholasGregory 06-18-2015 02:22 AM

Oh God I hope its not awful. They've never let me down before but as soon a I read "techno" my heart dropped.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 06-18-2015 07:11 PM

^
I think you forget to read the "not"
Quote:

not, like, a techno dance album

monotrekker 07-27-2015 12:10 PM

I remember seeing them open for TV on the Radio...I hardly paid any attention to TV on the Radio afterword, couldn't get GB out of my head.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 05-05-2017 05:05 PM

First song from their new (upcoming) album. On my 2nd listen, it definitely strikes me as one of those songs you have to listen to a half dozen times before you can make a judgement. That said, it does have that Grizzly Bear sound.


Inna Selez 05-17-2017 12:28 PM

Awesome news, guys.

Grizzly Bear Announce New Album Painted Ruins | Pitchfork

Inna Selez 05-22-2017 12:02 PM

Today's interview.

http://pitchfork.com/features/interv...social_twitter

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 05-22-2017 08:53 PM

^
Thanks for the link. This one is almost an outright rock 'n roll song.


Inna Selez 08-15-2017 10:25 AM

New video out today, folks!


DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 08-15-2017 04:57 PM

I confess I'm not really impressed by the first 2 songs so far.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 08-19-2017 09:18 PM

This one is better. Gotta look for the album since it's out now.


Justthefacts 08-20-2017 03:23 PM

Love the first two songs. Here's hoping the rest is better than my first impression.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 08-20-2017 05:02 PM

Bought the album today, gave it one listen through. A few good songs, but it's definitely not intended to be an album that's going to have immediate appeal in one listen-through.

Justthefacts 08-20-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1866143)
Bought the album today, gave it one listen through. A few good songs, but it's definitely not intended to be an album that's going to have immediate appeal in one listen-through.

None of them are.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 08-21-2017 04:48 PM

Well, that's true, but I think this one moreso than the others.

Justthefacts 08-21-2017 11:54 PM

It'd
Quote:

Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea (Post 1866390)
Well, that's true, but I think this one moreso than the others.

I'm still to this day trying to get into Veckatimist.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea 08-22-2017 04:34 PM

Veckatimist is an awesome album. And, along with Yellow House, to me it had appeal on only about the 2nd listen, some of it even on the 1st.

Shields takes a while to get into.


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