Help me with my Britpop timeline
 

What should I add or take out? The criteria is either a fully britpop album or an album you can definitely (and or slightly?) hear influences of Britpop.

-1987 Darklands - Jesus and Mary Chain
-1989 On Fire - Galaxie 500
-1990 Stone Roses - Stone Roses
-1990 Heaven or Las vegas - Cocteau Twins
-1990 The La's - The La's
-1990 Nowhere - Ride
-1990 Pigeonhole - New Fast Automatic Daffodils
-1991 Lesuire - Blur
-1991 Blue Lines - Massive Attack
-1991 Screamadelica - Primal Scream
- 1992 Doppleganger - Curve
-1992 Between 10th and 11th - The Charlatans
-1993 Modern Life is Rubbish - Blur
-1993 Suede - Suede
-1994 Dummy - Portishead
-1994 His n hers - Pulp
-1994 Second Coming - Stone Roses
-1994 Dog Man Star - Suede
-1994 Definatley Maybe - Oasis
-1994 Parklife - Blur
-1995 Should I coco - Supergrass
-1995 Different Class - Pulp
-1995 The Bends - Radiohead
-1995 Whats the Story Morning Glory - Oasis
-1995 Garbage - Garbage
-1995 Elastica - Elastica
-1995 The Charlatans - The Charlatans
-1996 Expecting to fly - Bluetones
-1996 Coming up - Suede
-1997 Blur - Blur
-1997 Ok Computer - Radiohead
-1997 Urban Hymns - The Verve
-1997 In it for the money - Supergrass
-1997 Be Here Now - Oasis
-1998 This Is Hardcore - Pulp
-1999 13 - Blur
-2000 Parachutes - Coldplay
-2001 Gorillaz - Gorillaz
-2002 A Rush of Blood to the Head - Coldplay

DEATH.

Left out:
Last two Suede albums
Last Blur album
Last three (or four?) Oasis Albums
Travis and the Stereophonics

Galaxie 500 are not British.

Does it matter?

Kind of defeats the purpose of a britpop list. A lot of britpop bands looked back to 60's and early 70's British artists for their inspiration, like T-Rex, Bowie and The Kinks. I love Galaxie 500 and everything but I don'r see where they come into it.

You have nothing by The House Of Love, BMX Bandits, The Pastels, Happy Mondays, Inspiral Carpets, Carter USM, The Soup Dragons, Snuff, Teenage Fanclub, Northern Uproar, Kingmaker, Chapterhouse, The Auteurs, Sultans of Ping FC, Flowered Up, Swervedriver, XC-NN, Boo Radleys, The Trash Can Sinatras, McCarthy, Cud, The Family Cat, Birdland, The Servants, The Field Mice, Mega City Four, Heavenly, Talulah Gosh, Rain Tree Crow, Blaggers I.T.A., EMF, Pale Saints, Stereolab, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, Kitchens of Distinction, Gene, Huggy Bear, Gallon Drunk, Daisy Chainsaw, Denim, Kinky Machine, Cornershop, Prolapse, Echobelly, Sleeper, Thurman, The Yummy Fur, S*M*A*S*H, These Animal Men, Lush, Velvet Crush, Laika, Senseless Things, Marion, Telstar Ponies, My Life Story, Tindersticks, Salad, Delicatessen, Super Furry Animals, Black Grape, Menswear, Scarfo, Plastic Fantastic, Urusei Yatsura, Catatonia, Sexus, Longpigs, Shed Seven, Ash, Belle and Sebastian, Animals That Swim, China Drum, Baader Meinhof, The Delgados, Broadcast, Strangelove, Pink Kross, Sleepy People, Ultrasound, Mansun, Hefner, Silver Sun, David Devant & His Spirit Wife, A.C. Acoustics, Spiritualized, Minty, Mono (Not the American Post Rock Band), Supermodel, Comet Gain, Orlando, Earl Brutus, The Male Nurse, Fridge, Gomez, Arab Strap, Symposium, Rialto, Black Box Recorder, Theaudience, The Beta Band, Ooberman, Clinic, Gay Dad, Gold Blade, The Bees, Death In Vegas, The All Seeing I, Badly Drawn Boy, The Go! Team, Regular Fries, Terris, Imitation Electric Piano, Ed Harcourt, The Reindeer Section, Mull Historical Society, French Kicks & Ikara Colt.

I do not agree with some of those on there. Some I have not heard of, and some I forgot. Thanks.

Their sound is really similar to the dreampop/early shoegaze stuff that influenced britpop or was around just before britpop took off, and all those bands were british.

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I'm not saying they didn't have an influence, but there were also countless non-British bands who did. Personally I find them closer in spirit to bands like Red House Painters, Codeine and Low. If you're going to include Galaxie 500 in a Britpop list then why not include The Velvet Underground, Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, Drop Nineteens, Lilys, Black Tamborine, Yo La Tengo etc? And no not all shoegaze bands were British.

See most of those barely have a sound that resembles Brit pop. Galaxie 500 do.

1996: Ocean Colour Scene - Moseley Shoals

The Galaxie 500 I listen to still sound a long way away from bands like Pulp, Blur and Elastica. I just find their inclusion on a Britpop list a bit odd and inconsistent.

Didn't say that all those bands sounded exactly similar to Britpop but Dinosaur Jr had an obvious influence on Teenage Fanclub and a lot of shoegaze bands have cited them as an influence. Lilys sound more British than Galaxie 500 do (in fact their 1999 album The 3 Way could easily pass as a Britpop album) and I was actually shocked to discover that Black Tambourine weren't British.

By the way your list is still missing albums by Adorable, Catherine Wheel and Moose.

That's absurd. Galaxie 500 should not be on a list of Britpop bands because they were a New York based band. BTW, Galaxie 500 doesn't sound like a Britpop band, anymore than Oasis sounds like a country and western band.

Your original list is a pretty good compilation of the most notable Britpop bands of the late 80s/90s. The dilemma is how many bands to you include under the Britpop definition? Do you want to include every 2nd and 3rd tier British band, for the sake of having an all inclusive list of Britpop bands?

Belle and Sebastian is from Glasgow Scotland and has more a folk sound, so is it inappropriate to include them on a Britpop list? Stereolab would also be on my list but a couple of Stereolab's members are French, not British.

The one band that probably should be on the list is Saint Etienne, the London based band that was influential in the early Nineties and is still recording excellent music.

They're a British pop band who launched their career during that movement so why not?
Other bands had a folk influence too and were included in that genre.
One was and she lived in London before the band was formed. Mary Hansen was Australian, Sean O Hagen is Irish, they were based in Britian, they had most of their success in Britain. I don't really see anything that would make them otherwise. That's like saying The Clash are a Turkish band because Strummer was born there.

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I've always thought of the idea of B&S being labelled a Britpop band debatable. Their introverted, bookish charm was completely at odds with the laddish swagger of bands like Oasis. On the other hand it raises the question as to what actually defines Britpop as the mainstream media at the time seemed to have had a narrower definition.

The term was coined on a Select magazine article written in 1992 by Stuart Marconi showing 5 new bands at the time. Those bands were The Auteurs, Denim, Saint Etienne, Pulp & Suede.
Neither of those bands sound anything alike, in fact Britpop itself didn't have a sound until around 95/96 when you got all those generic bands that jumped on the bandwagon.

Belle & Sebastian were a whole part of that Glasgow / Chemikal Underground scene of bands that included them, Arab Strab, Mogwai, Telstar Ponies, The Delgados, Comet Gain, Urusei Yatsura (With Alex Kaprianos on Keyboards) Camera Obscura and a whole load of others. They were always included at the time I see no reason why they shouldn't be now.

Here's the one, 1993 actually

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1998-Embrace-The Good Will Out.

People hear "Come Back To What You Know" and realise Be Here Now wasn't actually that bad.

Listening to Salad right now. Pretty neat Britpop band.

missed the great escape - blur (1995)
also their most recent 2 albums but I'm not sure whether to consider it britpop