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JakeATLBraves24 06-20-2013 08:58 PM

1996: Ocean Colour Scene - Moseley Shoals

Zer0 06-21-2013 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinkofthechildren (Post 1334726)
See most of those barely have a sound that resembles Brit pop. Galaxie 500 do.

The Galaxie 500 I listen to still sound a long way away from bands like Pulp, Blur and Elastica. I just find their inclusion on a Britpop list a bit odd and inconsistent.

Didn't say that all those bands sounded exactly similar to Britpop but Dinosaur Jr had an obvious influence on Teenage Fanclub and a lot of shoegaze bands have cited them as an influence. Lilys sound more British than Galaxie 500 do (in fact their 1999 album The 3 Way could easily pass as a Britpop album) and I was actually shocked to discover that Black Tambourine weren't British.

By the way your list is still missing albums by Adorable, Catherine Wheel and Moose.

Gavin B. 06-23-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinkofthechildren (Post 1334726)
See most of those barely have a sound that resembles Brit pop. Galaxie 500 do.

That's absurd. Galaxie 500 should not be on a list of Britpop bands because they were a New York based band. BTW, Galaxie 500 doesn't sound like a Britpop band, anymore than Oasis sounds like a country and western band.

Your original list is a pretty good compilation of the most notable Britpop bands of the late 80s/90s. The dilemma is how many bands to you include under the Britpop definition? Do you want to include every 2nd and 3rd tier British band, for the sake of having an all inclusive list of Britpop bands?

Belle and Sebastian is from Glasgow Scotland and has more a folk sound, so is it inappropriate to include them on a Britpop list? Stereolab would also be on my list but a couple of Stereolab's members are French, not British.

The one band that probably should be on the list is Saint Etienne, the London based band that was influential in the early Nineties and is still recording excellent music.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-23-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin B. (Post 1335585)

Belle and Sebastian is from Glasgow Scotland and has more a folk sound, so is it inappropriate to include them on a Britpop list?

They're a British pop band who launched their career during that movement so why not?
Other bands had a folk influence too and were included in that genre.
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Originally Posted by Gavin B. (Post 1335585)
Stereolab would also be on my list but a couple of Stereolab's members are French, not British.

One was and she lived in London before the band was formed. Mary Hansen was Australian, Sean O Hagen is Irish, they were based in Britian, they had most of their success in Britain. I don't really see anything that would make them otherwise. That's like saying The Clash are a Turkish band because Strummer was born there.

Goofle 06-23-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1334769)
By the way your list is still missing albums by Adorable, Catherine Wheel and Moose.

:yeah:

Zer0 06-23-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1335593)
They're a British pop band who launched their career during that movement so why not?
Other bands had a folk influence too and were included in that genre.

I've always thought of the idea of B&S being labelled a Britpop band debatable. Their introverted, bookish charm was completely at odds with the laddish swagger of bands like Oasis. On the other hand it raises the question as to what actually defines Britpop as the mainstream media at the time seemed to have had a narrower definition.

Urban Hat€monger ? 06-23-2013 04:42 PM

The term was coined on a Select magazine article written in 1992 by Stuart Marconi showing 5 new bands at the time. Those bands were The Auteurs, Denim, Saint Etienne, Pulp & Suede.
Neither of those bands sound anything alike, in fact Britpop itself didn't have a sound until around 95/96 when you got all those generic bands that jumped on the bandwagon.

Belle & Sebastian were a whole part of that Glasgow / Chemikal Underground scene of bands that included them, Arab Strab, Mogwai, Telstar Ponies, The Delgados, Comet Gain, Urusei Yatsura (With Alex Kaprianos on Keyboards) Camera Obscura and a whole load of others. They were always included at the time I see no reason why they shouldn't be now.

Zer0 06-23-2013 04:54 PM

Here's the one, 1993 actually

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7...dsauo1_400.jpg

Newkie 06-28-2013 05:54 AM

1998-Embrace-The Good Will Out.

People hear "Come Back To What You Know" and realise Be Here Now wasn't actually that bad.

Goofle 01-19-2015 01:43 AM

Listening to Salad right now. Pretty neat Britpop band.


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