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Josephine 05-21-2005 01:51 PM
The Libertines should reunite indeed...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LedZepStu
its based mostly in east end whitechapel area, spawning a lot of low key. raw indie pop bands like the rakes, cherubs, cribs, paddingtons etc. then you have the two bands that have had some commercial success- the libertines and the others. its all very basic, slapdash rock and roll but very good nevertheless. all the bands have websites if you want to check them out.
Thank u pretty much. I already wrote down the titles you typed in ur thread.
I know The Cribs and The Libertines (which reunion I would appriciate as well), of course. The other bands are completely new to me.
But I promise, I'll listen to them the next days (so that I can post my f***ing opinion in ur thread as well!!!).

Sneer 05-21-2005 01:55 PM
cool beans. presume your a fan of dochertys new band babyshambles too?

Imonlydancing 05-21-2005 02:01 PM
ahh...hmm....if you dont mind me butting in, i prefer the Libs to babyshambles, probably always will... if Pete gets his act together, there could be a lot more talent coming from him. but John Hassals (ex-lib bass player) is rather good too, maybe gary powell will be forming a new band soon, who knows....

Imonlydancing 05-21-2005 02:02 PM
oh my dear lord. i didnt say anything about carl....well wasnt he going to form a band called 'the chavs' or something? but then the name was already taken? correct me if im wrong...

Sneer 05-21-2005 02:04 PM
last i heard carl was trying to get a new line up for the libertines to carry on. think that failed.

Imonlydancing 05-21-2005 02:08 PM
me too.

Josephine 05-21-2005 04:28 PM
Nothing compared to The Libertines
 
Yeah, I like Pete's Babyshambles, my fav is "Another Girl Another Planet".
But they're nothing compared to The Libertines.
And even if they reunited, it wouldn't be the same again, cause it was only for the money. It's like Liam and Noel: It looks they're reconciled, they got their new album (which is quite good) and all that stuff, but it will never be the same again. Ya know what I mean?
And I guess Pete had to overcome his excessive drug career which could turn to be real hard...

Imonlydancing 05-21-2005 04:44 PM
yeah, i agree. my friend told me today that Pete would only ever have a girlfriend or marry someone with the name katie cos its tattooed above his left nipple...and well, Kate Moss...
what time is it in deutschland?

Josephine 05-21-2005 05:43 PM
Pete Doherty & Kate Moss??? "REAL LOVE" indeed...
 
Now it's 01:35 a.m. (one hour later than in the UK)...
Hehe, funny story bout Kate Moss... He's real clever, now there's no need to remove this "unique" tatoo...;)
They're a weird couple indeed... Guess that won't bring any success for his music (in addition to the drug-thing)...
I don't like Kate Moss pretty much anyway, one of these dump models...

By the way: Imonlydancing, did ya read my post bout the ADIDAS ad?

Imonlydancing 05-22-2005 03:31 AM
oo i see, yeah i read the post about adidas ad. thanks.
yeah, i'm not a fan of Kate Moss either...

Josephine 05-22-2005 05:32 AM
Elevator
 
Which one is ur favourite song on "Elevator"?

Imonlydancing 05-22-2005 08:21 AM
i havent heard that much. i'm still liking goodnight goodnight.

Sneer 05-22-2005 08:23 AM
island of the honest man, middle of nowhere, jingle jangle, goodnight goodnight. its all good.

Josephine 05-22-2005 08:36 AM
Goodnight, goodnight, you're embarrassing me, you're embarrassing you...
 
I like "Goodnight Goodnight", too...

adidasss 05-22-2005 09:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imonlydancing
ahh...hmm....if you dont mind me butting in, i prefer the Libs to babyshambles, probably always will... if Pete gets his act together, there could be a lot more talent coming from him. but John Hassals (ex-lib bass player) is rather good too, maybe gary powell will be forming a new band soon, who knows....
i don't understand why people are so hyped about the libertines, i got curious and downloaded a couple of songs, and was totally disappointed, maybe because , from what i've seen of their lifestyle and how they look and their album cover, i was expecting something much "harder", more intense, but instead i found sugary pop-rock, similar to the strokes....

adidasss 05-22-2005 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
island of the honest man, middle of nowhere, jingle jangle, goodnight goodnight. its all good.
how can you single out any song, they're all equally great...

Imonlydancing 05-22-2005 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by adidasss
i don't understand why people are so hyped about the libertines, i got curious and downloaded a couple of songs, and was totally disappointed, maybe because , from what i've seen of their lifestyle and how they look and their album cover, i was expecting something much "harder", more intense, but instead i found sugary pop-rock, similar to the strokes....
yeah...hmm, i like the strokes too. but i've liked the libertines since before there was so much hype over them. recently people have just been listening to them because of what they've read/seen about pete, thats why everyones expecting something 'harder' but, to be honest, its just the impression hes giving, and its totally not what the libertines are.

adidasss 05-22-2005 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Imonlydancing
yeah...hmm, i like the strokes too. but i've liked the libertines since before there was so much hype over them. recently people have just been listening to them because of what they've read/seen about pete, thats why everyones expecting something 'harder' but, to be honest, its just the impression hes giving, and its totally not what the libertines are.
well that's exactly what ruined them for me...it's like going to see a movie that's advertised as a comedy and it's acctualy a drama,the movie is ruined because you can't apreciate it as a drama...you're too pissed off...if ya know what i mean...

Josephine 05-22-2005 10:12 AM
Avatar
 
Hey anybody?
I got bout 53 posts now, but I'm still not able to get an avatar!Would anybody help me please???

hookers with machineguns 05-22-2005 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by adidasss
today i read a review of elevator in my daily papers, and i was so pissed because the reviewer rated it slightly worse the make up the brakedown ( total fu*ckin' snob who prefers underproduced obscure music ), and it's o obvious that elevator is superior, more songs, better songs...and this is off topic but in the same review he rated the bravery 2/5 whilst saying that "granted, almost every song is a potential hit"!!!!man, music critics really tend to piss me off, luckily i'm not impressionable, and like the music i like, but in the passed year or so i've been getting my information about great new bands from the papers (i see a good rated band, then i go download a couple of songs to see if i like it ) or the internet and this makes me wonder, what have i been missing?
It's hard to rate all the trendy new wave bands when they sound exactly the same or are ripping off bands that have done it two decades before. The more you depend on reviews, the more your music taste just follows a fad.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 05-22-2005 10:13 AM
^^Josephine use the search function at the top of this page, its pretty handy when it comes to this subject. Try typing in "avatar" Im sure you'll find a couple hundred threads on the matter :)

Josephine 05-22-2005 10:23 AM
The Hype-Thing...
 
Yeah, that's the problem with all these mainstream-people...
They hype something, cause it's supposed to be "in" although they dunno why...
That ruins everything, even if u liked a band before. I dunno if I'm the only one who thinks so, but if a band/movie/thing/whatever is hyped in that way, I can't appriciate it anymore...
That's why I secretly hope that nobody will recognize them, everytime I got to know a new band... It's damn egoistic and silly, I know, but I cannot deny these feelings...

ArtistInTheAmbulance 05-22-2005 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Josephine
That's why I secretly hope that nobody will recognize them, everytime I got to know a new band... It's damn egoistic and silly, I know, but I cannot deny these feelings...
Really? Almost every time I find a new band, Ill tell someone else about them, just cause I like to talk about the music with someone else... I dont like keeping a band a secret, music shouldn't be kept a secret, that defies the whole point of it.

But I kinda understand what you mean... Its not as special when everyone else knows about them, not just you..

adidasss 05-22-2005 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns
It's hard to rate all the trendy new wave bands when they sound exactly the same or are ripping off bands that have done it two decades before. The more you depend on reviews, the more your music taste just follows a fad.
how else am i going to find out about good music...i have to choose some method, there's just too many bands out there...and what does it matter if my music taste follows a fad, if i genuinely enjoy the music? you tend to dismiss everything that's popular, and assume it can't be good?that's a bit snobbish of you..

Josephine 05-22-2005 10:40 AM
Hype
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
Really? Almost every time I find a new band, Ill tell someone else about them, just cause I like to talk about the music with someone else... I dont like keeping a band a secret, music shouldn't be kept a secret, that defies the whole point of it.

But I kinda understand what you mean... Its not as special when everyone else knows about them, not just you..
I do it the same way. If there's a band I like very much (like Mando Diao, I talk bout them all the time...), I tell my friends and everybody I meet bout them. I wanna share my enthusiasm... If there's something you really like, you always try to make the others see (unfortunately my friends are ignorant, they like their mainstream-chart-thing).
But don't ya know, when u liked a band for quite a long time & u always recommended this one, but nobody recognized u and then SUDDENLY it's everywhere on TV/radio/magazines/whatever... Like "That's the new "in"-band!" and u just think "OKAY, but I already know that! That's what I always said, but nobody listened to me..."
Do ya know what I mean? Things like that annoy me...

hookers with machineguns 05-22-2005 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidasss
that's a bit snobbish of you..
Thanks. I get that alot. That comment goes through me like water nowadays.

I was simply suggesting that your exposure to music will forever be tainted and biased if you depend on good reviews, bad reviews. Most of the people who rate these albums are no different from you and me. I wouldn't depend on them, and I'm sure you're fully aware of that. There are PLENTY of sources to find the style of music you like. Musicbanter happens to be one of them. If you actually care to look for new bands (instead of the popular ones that you always hear about) then look around. Check out some of the other threads in the forums.

And, I happen to listen to TONS of popular music, just nothing you listen to.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 05-22-2005 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josephine
I do it the same way. If there's a band I like very much (like Mando Diao, I talk bout them all the time...), I tell my friends and everybody I meet bout them. I wanna share my enthusiasm... If there's something you really like, you always try to make the others see (unfortunately my friends are ignorant, they like their mainstream-chart-thing).
But don't ya know, when u liked a band for quite a long time & u always recommended this one, but nobody recognized u and then SUDDENLY it's everywhere on TV/radio/magazines/whatever... Like "That's the new "in"-band!" and u just think "OKAY, but I already know that! That's what I always said, but nobody listened to me..."
Do ya know what I mean? Things like that annoy me...
Hah I know exactly what you mean... That is actually really annoying, I agree with you completely...

Its worse when you let them listen to a band you've just found, they say they dont like it, and then when they become popular a few months later, they'll be all "Hey check this new band I found out, theyre really good".

Hmm, never mind... Nowt you can do about it I spose.

Josephine 05-22-2005 10:51 AM
Mainstream's dead!!!
 
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant!!!

And they are like "Oh, u have to listen to them, they're "IN" now!", as if they were the ones who found out bout the band...
And this behaviour definitly proves how "mainstream-addicted" they actually are. That's always depressing for me, I just feel like "Oh, these are my friends? What's wrong with the world?"
And that's why I beg secretly that "my band" won't become too big...

Imonlydancing 05-22-2005 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidasss
well that's exactly what ruined them for me...it's like going to see a movie that's advertised as a comedy and it's acctualy a drama,the movie is ruined because you can't apreciate it as a drama...you're too pissed off...if ya know what i mean...
yeah i spose...like false advertising? but maybe if you'd have heard them, then seen what they were like you'd think about them differently.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-22-2005 12:35 PM
People take this whole Alternative/Mainstream thing far too seriously.

I don`t really care what anyone else is listening to. I`ve heard lots of good & bad 'obscure' music and the same could be said of mainstream music.

Josephine 05-22-2005 12:42 PM
Listen to what u want...
 
Yeah, but that's exactly the point: U should hear what u like to hear, not what some trends are telling u... But that's exactly what many people do.
U should have ur own opinion and I think it's ridiculous in the same to say. "Oh, I like this band, cause it's not that popular yet!"
Cause trying "to be alternative" seems to be kinda hype, too.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-22-2005 12:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josephine
Yeah, but that's exactly the point: U should hear what u like to hear, not what some trends are telling u... But that's exactly what many people do.
U should have ur own opinion and I think it's ridiculous in the same to say. "Oh, I like this band, cause it's not that popular yet!"
Cause trying "to be alternative" seems to be kinda hype, too.
Thats fine , but when you do speak out against those bands you get called things such as elitist or arrogant , it`s happened to me & Hookers on a number of occasions.

People get defensive when you say you dislike bands they like , Personally I think Hot Hot Heat are a bloody awful one hit wonder band living on borrowed time , but there you go.

Josephine 05-22-2005 12:51 PM
Say what u want...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Thats fine , but when you do speak out against those bands you get called things such as elitist or arrogant , it`s happened to me & Hookers on a number of occasions.

People get defensive when you say you dislike bands they like , Personally I think Hot Hot Heat are a bloody awful one hit wonder band living on borrowed time , but there you go.
U can say that! That's what this f***ing forum is for!!! Discussing bout music.
But when u critizize, you have to accept critics as well!
And of course they get defensive. Wouldn't u defent ur favourite band???

I appriciate that u have ur own opinion. Better one than none!!!

adidasss 05-22-2005 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Imonlydancing
yeah i spose...like false advertising? but maybe if you'd have heard them, then seen what they were like you'd think about them differently.
yeah, maybe, but it's too late now...they're ruined for me forever...

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-22-2005 01:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josephine
U can say that! That's what this f***ing forum is for!!! Discussing bout music.
Well I know, that you know that.
But there`s a difference between having a discussing & name calling

adidasss 05-22-2005 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Well I know, that you know that.
But there`s a difference between having a discussing & name calling
don't be a hypocrite...you do that too when someone listens to music you hate...

Josephine 05-22-2005 01:11 PM
Everybody has the right to critizise...
 
I think critic is good /useful as long as it's justified!

Name-calling is just childish...

Imonlydancing 05-22-2005 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidasss
yeah, maybe, but it's too late now...they're ruined for me forever...
yeah, fair point. like when things are done the 2nd time around...somehow not quite as good.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-22-2005 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidasss
don't be a hypocrite...you do that too when someone listens to music you hate...
when?

hookers with machineguns 05-22-2005 02:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
Thats fine , but when you do speak out against those bands you get called things such as elitist or arrogant , it`s happened to me & Hookers on a number of occasions.
Yeah it's kinda odd how that works, and at the same time, we get the most praise in your Who Floats Your Boat thread.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
People get defensive when you say you dislike bands they like , Personally I think Hot Hot Heat are a bloody awful one hit wonder band living on borrowed time , but there you go
Couldn't agree more.


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