Greatest Post Punk Album

Noise Wall · 06-10-2012, 06:59 PM

I recently got into an argument with a friend who claims Closer to be the great post punk album of all time.

I am a huge fan of Closer, definitely one of my favorites, but I dont know about it being the best.

My vote would probably have to go to The freshman Cocteau Twins release, Garlands. While Cocteau Twins are far more known for their dreampop, they began as one of the greatest post punk acts around. While the argument that this album is directly influenced by Closer stands strong, when actually judging the quality of an album, I don't thin influence should be such a big factor.

Besides Garlands, I also think that Psychocandy by Jesus and Mary Chain is capable of knocking Closer off of its throne, and if the Swans could be considered Post Punk, than they also have some albums that post a challenge.

Anyway, I made this thread to get your opinion. Which do you think is better of the two(If you have heard them both), and also, if neither of them, what album do you think deserves to be crowned king(or queen) of Post Punk?

Violent & Funky · 06-11-2012, 02:21 AM

Are we limiting ourselves to British post-punk?

Howard the Duck · 06-11-2012, 07:30 AM

P.I.L. - Metal Box

I win

Noise Wall · 06-13-2012, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

Are we limiting ourselves to British post-punk?

No way. Its just mostly what I am familiar with.

Forward To Death · 06-13-2012, 04:38 AM

Violent Femmes S/T is one of the better non-british post-punk albums. Daydream Nation by Sonic Youth is one of the most influential alt rock albums ever made IMO.

I could go a lot of different routes here.

Howard the Duck · 06-14-2012, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPLocal

I never really understood what counts as post punk, but when I saw this thread I immediately thought of the Black Lips. Very underrated indie band with some real punk roots

i don't either

i really never quite got the grips with all these post-(something) tags

post-rock, post-metal, post-hardcore - i don't find any underlying unifying sound or format

Paedantic Basterd · 06-14-2012, 01:04 PM

Well post-rock is the use of standard rock instrumentation to create more ambient, meandering, textural pieces.

Post-punk I think is less about a sound and more about an idea, so it's a broader blanket covering more dissimilar artists.

Forward To Death · 06-14-2012, 02:17 PM

Post punk bands usually have attitude, or darkness, but a more accessible musical sound than punk.

SnapCracklePop · 06-14-2012, 04:37 PM

Garlands is one of the greatest albums known to man!

jawbreaker · 06-14-2012, 05:15 PM

Pere Ubu's 'modern dance'
Magazine's 'real life'
Gang of four's 'entertainment'
Rip rig and panic's 'God'
PIL's 'flowers of romances'
Killing Joke's self-titled
Simple Minds' 'reel to real cacophony'
The Fall's 'grotesque'
The Pop Group's 'Y'
Adam and the Ants' 'dirk wears white sox'

06-10-2012, 06:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Noise Wall Groupie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Souvlaki Space Station Posts: 35	Greatest Post Punk Album I recently got into an argument with a friend who claims Closer to be the great post punk album of all time. I am a huge fan of Closer, definitely one of my favorites, but I dont know about it being the best. My vote would probably have to go to The freshman Cocteau Twins release, Garlands. While Cocteau Twins are far more known for their dreampop, they began as one of the greatest post punk acts around. While the argument that this album is directly influenced by Closer stands strong, when actually judging the quality of an album, I don't thin influence should be such a big factor. Besides Garlands, I also think that Psychocandy by Jesus and Mary Chain is capable of knocking Closer off of its throne, and if the Swans could be considered Post Punk, than they also have some albums that post a challenge. Anyway, I made this thread to get your opinion. Which do you think is better of the two(If you have heard them both), and also, if neither of them, what album do you think deserves to be crowned king(or queen) of Post Punk?

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Violent & Funky FUNky Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 2,482	Are we limiting ourselves to British post-punk? __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/ohio0808 sometimes I don't thrill you sometimes I think I'll kill you just don't let me fuck up will you 'cause when I need a friend it's still you

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jawbreaker Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Paris area Posts: 65	Pere Ubu's 'modern dance' Magazine's 'real life' Gang of four's 'entertainment' Rip rig and panic's 'God' PIL's 'flowers of romances' Killing Joke's self-titled Simple Minds' 'reel to real cacophony' The Fall's 'grotesque' The Pop Group's 'Y' Adam and the Ants' 'dirk wears white sox' __________________ "the secret of a long life is to try not to shorten it". My name is nobody, Sergio Leone, 1973

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Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	Violent Femmes S/T is one of the better non-british post-punk albums. Daydream Nation by Sonic Youth is one of the most influential alt rock albums ever made IMO. I could go a lot of different routes here.

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Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Well post-rock is the use of standard rock instrumentation to create more ambient, meandering, textural pieces. Post-punk I think is less about a sound and more about an idea, so it's a broader blanket covering more dissimilar artists.

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Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	Post punk bands usually have attitude, or darkness, but a more accessible musical sound than punk.

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SnapCracklePop Groupie Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 6	Garlands is one of the greatest albums known to man!