Jack White

steve0211 · 03-14-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Overall I think Jack White is incredible. His biggest problem, imo, is that he's made too many acts, so they all start to sound one-dimensional.

Jack White is pretty amazing. Personally i wish that White Stripes could have evolved more. Always have been a fave of mine.

Speaking of earlier JW< Did you guys know of his work with Electric Six?

TheBig3 · 03-14-2012, 09:17 AM

I knew he played on Fire in the Disco. Did he play on the album?

He's our Eric Clapton (generationally).

Queen Of The World · 03-15-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBig3

I knew he played on Fire in the Disco. Did he play on the album?

He's our Eric Clapton (generationally).

Agreed ^

blastingas10 · 03-15-2012, 07:25 PM

How exactly is he our Eric Clapton? I can see the similarities In the way they were both the backbone of various different bands. I think he's a bit more like Neil young, style wise. Both were fairly simple guitarists, I can even think of some acoustic jack white songs that sound like some Neil young youngs. They both have a sloppy, loud and heavily distorted electric guitar style. They both have country, folk, blues influences.

blastingas10 · 03-15-2012, 07:56 PM

Neil and jack also sang with soft, similar voices. Just think Of some of jacks acoustic work. They both were primarily blues based guitarists with heavy fuzz, who made folky songs and even country songs. Jacks song "I'm lonely but I ain't that lonely yet", for example. Neil has various songs with a country sound. I think Jacks guitar and songwriting skills compare better with neils. Clapton wrote some great songs but he wasn't that great of a writer, he was more of a guitarist and I think his guitar skills are Better than jack and neil.

So I think Clapton was primarily a guitarist, and Neil and jack are pretty well balanced guitarists/writers.

Also, I agree, Duane and jimi were better than Clapton. I like youre style.

TheBig3 · 03-15-2012, 08:09 PM

I said that because it was said of Clapton that, in the 70's, everything he touched was gold. i feel the same way about White. I won't spray paint "White is God" in a subway, but I think he's similar.

Obviously, OBVIOSULY, the sound is not the same.

blastingas10 · 03-15-2012, 08:18 PM

He's really a fairly simple guitarist but his riffs are killer and he has a pretty unique tone and style. In a time when shredding is everything it's nice to have someone like him. I get so sick of the typical shredders who don't have any style or any kind of distinction to their playing.

blastingas10 · 03-16-2012, 08:51 PM

Exactly. Technical ability isn't everything. If everyone played their instrument as fast they could all the time, music would not be good. And speed isn't always a good way to judge technical ability. Just because you can play a scale fast doesn't make you technically good. There are really complex, multi-layered pieces of music that dont consist of much speed. A lot of those speed shredders are hard to tell apart. Give someone with a distinctive style that you can instantly recognize - someone like jack.

My friends saw him in Oklahoma last night. Apparently he played a bunch of white stripe songs. Really wish I could have made it

Mr November · 03-17-2012, 12:53 AM

It also helps that as much work as he's done, he rarely just spits out filler tracks full of the same ideas and concepts. Even being a good musician, and being technically good, you haven't got much unless you can create something entertaining.

blastingas10 · 03-17-2012, 01:20 AM

Shredding can get really boring. You can only play so fast and still have some melody to your playing. And you can only marvel at the speed for so long. At some point you begin to think: "I get it, you can shred, now is there anything else you can do?" There's a paul gilbert video entitled "two types of guitarists". He talks about guitarists who really blend with the rest of the band and really have a flow and groove to their playing. And then there's the shredders, who kind of clash with the rest of the band and just don't have that groove that the other kind of guitarist has. He says he prefer the guitarists with a some groove rather than the constant shredding. Which is cool to hear from such a master who can really shred.

03-14-2012, 09:17 AM	#42 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I knew he played on Fire in the Disco. Did he play on the album? He's our Eric Clapton (generationally).

03-15-2012, 07:25 PM	#44 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	How exactly is he our Eric Clapton? I can see the similarities In the way they were both the backbone of various different bands. I think he's a bit more like Neil young, style wise. Both were fairly simple guitarists, I can even think of some acoustic jack white songs that sound like some Neil young youngs. They both have a sloppy, loud and heavily distorted electric guitar style. They both have country, folk, blues influences.

03-15-2012, 07:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Neil and jack also sang with soft, similar voices. Just think Of some of jacks acoustic work. They both were primarily blues based guitarists with heavy fuzz, who made folky songs and even country songs. Jacks song "I'm lonely but I ain't that lonely yet", for example. Neil has various songs with a country sound. I think Jacks guitar and songwriting skills compare better with neils. Clapton wrote some great songs but he wasn't that great of a writer, he was more of a guitarist and I think his guitar skills are Better than jack and neil. So I think Clapton was primarily a guitarist, and Neil and jack are pretty well balanced guitarists/writers. Also, I agree, Duane and jimi were better than Clapton. I like youre style.

03-15-2012, 08:09 PM	#46 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	I said that because it was said of Clapton that, in the 70's, everything he touched was gold. i feel the same way about White. I won't spray paint "White is God" in a subway, but I think he's similar. Obviously, OBVIOSULY, the sound is not the same.

03-15-2012, 08:18 PM	#47 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	He's really a fairly simple guitarist but his riffs are killer and he has a pretty unique tone and style. In a time when shredding is everything it's nice to have someone like him. I get so sick of the typical shredders who don't have any style or any kind of distinction to their playing.

03-16-2012, 08:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Exactly. Technical ability isn't everything. If everyone played their instrument as fast they could all the time, music would not be good. And speed isn't always a good way to judge technical ability. Just because you can play a scale fast doesn't make you technically good. There are really complex, multi-layered pieces of music that dont consist of much speed. A lot of those speed shredders are hard to tell apart. Give someone with a distinctive style that you can instantly recognize - someone like jack. My friends saw him in Oklahoma last night. Apparently he played a bunch of white stripe songs. Really wish I could have made it

03-17-2012, 12:53 AM	#49 (permalink)
Mr November Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Halifax, Canada Posts: 429	It also helps that as much work as he's done, he rarely just spits out filler tracks full of the same ideas and concepts. Even being a good musician, and being technically good, you haven't got much unless you can create something entertaining.

03-17-2012, 01:20 AM	#50 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Shredding can get really boring. You can only play so fast and still have some melody to your playing. And you can only marvel at the speed for so long. At some point you begin to think: "I get it, you can shred, now is there anything else you can do?" There's a paul gilbert video entitled "two types of guitarists". He talks about guitarists who really blend with the rest of the band and really have a flow and groove to their playing. And then there's the shredders, who kind of clash with the rest of the band and just don't have that groove that the other kind of guitarist has. He says he prefer the guitarists with a some groove rather than the constant shredding. Which is cool to hear from such a master who can really shred.