Jack White

Rjinn · 09-11-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Hes written some of the best riffs in a long time. That makes him special or his era. I don't think he completed ripped off old rock n roll and blues. He put a new spin on it, made it his own. The white stripes had a pretty unique band, the only other band I can think of that they sounded like is the flat duo jets. But still, they were quite a bit different. And when you consider jacks new solo album, he really moved away from that garage rock and blues sound. I'd say the music on it is pretty unique, more so than the music he made with meg.

Talking about him as a solo guitarist in a perspective of originality. Different to a group's productive output. His sound doesn't give me an impression of inimitability. He might put a spin to it, but really it isn't something unheard of. Hard rockin' out blues, not something alien to my ears. Perhaps there's something that I don't hear that others do. But hey feel free to keep us informed.

edit: Actually I don't really want to get into another discussion about Jack White. I've had enough Jack White for the day.

TheBig3 · 11-03-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn

Talking about him as a solo guitarist in a perspective of originality. Different to a group's productive output. His sound doesn't give me an impression of inimitability. He might put a spin to it, but really it isn't something unheard of. Hard rockin' out blues, not something alien to my ears. Perhaps there's something that I don't hear that others do. But hey feel free to keep us informed.

edit: Actually I don't really want to get into another discussion about Jack White. I've had enough Jack White for the day.

Are you saying this is his only output, or are you talking about a specific album?

blastingas10 · 11-03-2012, 04:58 PM

I wouldn't say that he is doing something that is unheard. But he did really come out into the national spotlight doing something that was pretty absent in popular music. I still think his overall sound is pretty distinctive. Especially on this new album. His songwriting, vocals and guitar playing are pretty distinctive in all his work. Sure, he plays blues rock which isn't unique at all, but the way he does it, its the tone he has I guess that is distinctive to me.

Just out of curiousity, Are you a fan of David gilmour? Do you think he is unique or special?

Rjinn · 11-03-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Are you saying this is his only output, or are you talking about a specific album?

Speaking generally. He did lead into different directions with The Raconteurs and The Dead Weather, but lost his spice, and became decreasingly impressive. Quite a bore.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I wouldn't say that he is doing something that is unheard. But he did really come out into the national spotlight doing something that was pretty absent in popular music. I still think his overall sound is pretty distinctive. Especially on this new album. His songwriting, vocals and guitar playing are pretty distinctive in all his work. Sure, he plays blues rock which isn't unique at all, but the way he does it, its the tone he has I guess that is distinctive to me.

Just out of curiousity, Are you a fan of David gilmour? Do you think he is unique or special?

I actually agree that he's a good song writer. Most interesting part if anything. Guitar, doesn't really push it into an unexpected curb still. I'd like to know how you think his guitar playing becomes distinctive? If I heard a Jack White guitar piece on the radio or some kind of music media stream without knowing it, I probably wouldn't be able to tell whether it's Jack White or not. Also there is definitely no insinuation here that all blues rock today is unoriginal. It's harder to reach in regard considering how many artists accumulated, but definitely not an unoriginal genre.

I also mentioned Rory Gallagher in relation to Jack White in the blues rock topic.

I honestly think there's a mirror to Jack White style here.

In his favour, the covers he did in White Stripes, Death Letter, Stop Breaking Down, One More Cup of Coffee, Your Souther Can Is Mine, and especially I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself (He made that song a hell of a lot better than the original) really made them shine through, but that's only in terms of cover contortion.

As for David Gilmour, it's hard to say. In terms of progression he brought something new to the table back in the times. His blues tone flow though is pretty standard, despite being lovely.

I'll give his new solo album another listen just to be open. :P

Peppermint4life · 11-04-2012, 01:56 AM

The uniqueness, in my opinion, comes from his leaps outside of standard blues guitar. Icky Thump, Salute Your Solution, Sixteen Saltines are all examples of him playing the blues, but not playing the blues. Also, live, these are much better.

TheBig3 · 04-13-2013, 09:13 PM

Rocker Jack White - Serious Jibber-Jabber with Conan O'Brien @ TeamCoco.com

Incredible interview where I think Jack gets into depth on a lot of what he approaches his music with.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-13-2013, 05:59 PM

Criminally underrated artist/musician

He is amazing and a future legend from his generation.

Circe · 08-14-2013, 07:53 AM

I certainly wouldn't describe him as criminally underrated. I'd say that most people have at least heard of The White Stripes and recognise him as one of the great rock guitarists/influences of this generation.

TheBig3 · 08-14-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Circe

I certainly wouldn't describe him as criminally underrated. I'd say that most people have at least heard of The White Stripes and recognise him as one of the great rock guitarists/influences of this generation.

He is.

People say things like: "Oh well he isn't doing anything new" or "Oh he just sounds like Led Zeppelin" or "his other bands sucked, and the White Stripes sucked in the end, he's done."

His solo album was killer, and he's going to be remembered by the generation that grew up with his music as someone who was talented and honest in the time of ProTools and bull**** rage acts.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-14-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Circe

I certainly wouldn't describe him as criminally underrated. I'd say that most people have at least heard of The White Stripes and recognise him as one of the great rock guitarists/influences of this generation.

He is criminally underrated by the general public and recording industry. Outside of this community and people that know about him, he is not receiving high accolades or recognition for his music.

11-03-2012, 04:58 PM	#113 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	I wouldn't say that he is doing something that is unheard. But he did really come out into the national spotlight doing something that was pretty absent in popular music. I still think his overall sound is pretty distinctive. Especially on this new album. His songwriting, vocals and guitar playing are pretty distinctive in all his work. Sure, he plays blues rock which isn't unique at all, but the way he does it, its the tone he has I guess that is distinctive to me. Just out of curiousity, Are you a fan of David gilmour? Do you think he is unique or special? Last edited by blastingas10; 11-03-2012 at 06:06 PM.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Rocker Jack White - Serious Jibber-Jabber with Conan O'Brien @ TeamCoco.com Incredible interview where I think Jack gets into depth on a lot of what he approaches his music with. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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Peppermint4life Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: KY Posts: 73	The uniqueness, in my opinion, comes from his leaps outside of standard blues guitar. Icky Thump, Salute Your Solution, Sixteen Saltines are all examples of him playing the blues, but not playing the blues. Also, live, these are much better.

08-13-2013, 05:59 PM	#117 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	Criminally underrated artist/musician He is amazing and a future legend from his generation.

08-14-2013, 07:53 AM	#118 (permalink)
Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	I certainly wouldn't describe him as criminally underrated. I'd say that most people have at least heard of The White Stripes and recognise him as one of the great rock guitarists/influences of this generation.