Yeah, I've heard them a lot on the radio over here.

"Nonstop" is an exaggeration but even if you were right, then yeah, fine, but the question is *which songs*? Only a tiny handful of anything on their albums has been anything close to mainstream-radio-worthy. Most of it doesn't even work as pop. It's too bombastic, too over the top, too ridiculous in each and every way conceivable - the ears of your average listening folk cannot stomach it. Hell, I cannot stomach it. The band only broke the top 5 like, once, and it comes as no surprise that it was with the most poppy, radio-friendly, UN-MUSEY song they've ever written: Supermassive Black Hole.

Breaking into the top 5 shouldn't be the only way to be considered "mainstream" christ how many bands actually break into the top 5? Muse had plenty of songs on the radio, Starlight, Knights of Cydonia, Hysteria, Apocalypse Please, Butterflies and Hurricanes and Time is Running Out which was everywhere. Arguing they aren't on the radio is stupid, it's not objective its a fact they have been and with way more than Supermassive Black Hole.

I don't see how that makes them any less progressive. Shouldn't that have something to do with song structures...? :\

In the UK they've been getting heavy radio play since they released Muscle Museum. And that was released before they even had their first album out.

Ever since then every single they have released has been played to death.

All I'm saying is that the vast majority of their tracks are far from radio-worthy. Most of their work is in a repulsive style that most radio listeners (and many serious music fans) really could not stomach.

Agreed. Whether or not they are pop doesn't make them any less progressive. As somebody else pointed out, there were enough 70s prog bands with sounds a helluva lot more poppy than Muse.

I never said it makes them less progressive.I don't even listen to much Muse so when I argue they were or weren't progressive. I'm saying to deny they get radio play is ridiculous and to try and argue it is too because...they do.

Agreed. But dude, what I'm saying is that the great majority of their work is far, far from radio-worthy. Especially going back before Black Holes And Revs. Most of it is way too theatrical, bombastic and ridiculous to be to the tastes of the mainstream. It comes as no surprise that they have nothing like the mass popularity of the more recent breakthrough britpop/post-libs acts, who write in a considerably more poppy radio-friendly format on the whole.

Either way there's no reason why anyone would want to listen to anything as crap as muse, end of discussion.

Also, 4th on last.fm is pretty popular.

there are 23 idiots on this forum if that poll is correct