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Old 01-28-2011, 11:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Defend myself? I didn't even know we were arguing.

And no, the definition of indie isn't people that you don't like. I'm mobile right now and I would link you some examples to music and style and stuff but it's really hard to on here so I'll let someone else take care of it.

I definetly wouldn't keep taking the arrogant high ground if I were you because it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Wow... Really? Another thread stereotyping people?
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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you stereo type yourself by joining an indie forum.and by the look of it,cant fathom why.indie seems one rizla paper above the pop crowd in a disco.back in my day we had happy mondys stone roses oasis,today you got what ?
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Old 01-28-2011, 11:47 AM   #14 (permalink)
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This isn't an indie forum though.
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This is far from being an indie forum..
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The stone roses were sh*t.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems he wants to talk about The Stone Roses, Oasis & Happy Mondays.

Conan, you better have a word with the admin & ask him to open up that 'Outdated Pub Rock' forum.
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Probably a troll.
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Old 01-28-2011, 12:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Nobody walks into a room and declares "EFF YEaH im InDiE!!!"
it's a fashion choice, it's a taste in specific music, it's an aesthetic that people go by. They aren't nessicarily even politcal. They don't have to reject established society.

Comparing every cultural movement to "hippies" makes you sound like you're 68 years old.
I'd disagree.

They may not be overtly political, but by their own ethos you could surmise their position on political issues. That may seem too distant, but the Christian Right had no overt political positions once upon a time. Its a value system that they have and it would likely be small-government.

As for establish society, I think they reject the value system of established society. They don't like bands often times beyond seemingly arbitrary points because of what they perceive as an aesthetic position.

They could easily be issue voters. And every sub-culture movement is going to have anti-establishment views, thats why they have a different fashion/music/ethos to them. They think its correct. And if they shared the values of the mainstream, we likely wouldn't have a name for them.
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Right. I meant more as for goes the comparison the the hippies of the 1960s, which I imagine the comparison was made because they seemed to kore fully "reject" established society and in some cases live on their own in family farms and what not. Whereas I don't think of those you'd typically personify as 'indie' would go as far as that because their beliefs are generally not as strong with those issues.
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