HAHAHA

It's an opinion that says a lot.
I like the Soup Dragons but they clearly cashed in on throwaway hooks and generic danceable beats while the Stone Roses brought musical depth to the short-lived scene in which the two bands shared space.

This is just my opinion.

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well, The Soup Dragons are great fun party music

while initially The Stone Roses sound pretty evocative and resonant, but the debut doesn't really stand up to repeated listenings, except for I Wanna Be Adored, She Bangs the Drums and Waterfall (don't even remember if that was the correct name)

I have listened to it far too many times at this point, and the obvious weak songs just stand out now, rather than pass by.

I don't think TSR were part of the scene per se. They were doing their own thing and then 'the scene' sorta joined them.

Agree with that. They started off as a crap punk band as well.

Saying the Soup Dragons were a better band than the Stone Roses almost sounds like an exercise in name-dropping (pick a better band at least!).

The Stone Roses debut is a great album, along with Primal Scream the band were trailblazers in the fusion of Dance and Alternative (in the UK at least). It's an imaginative, nuanced and well-crafted psychedelic pop album, and as others have said, it has a real resonance. BE THAT AS IT MAY, it is ever-so-slightly overrated, especially when the likes of The Observer and NME list it as the greatest British album of all time. It is not the greatest British album of all time, it's just a great album that proved influential in the years following its release.

Incidentally, I prefer Doolittle.

i find Primal Scream's Screamadelica pretty overrated as well - too much ambience and not enough good tunes

i think XTRMNTR is where it's at

I've got into Pixies a lot recently, and I've only ever heard The Stone Rose's singles; Waterfall etc.

Gave their s/t a go yesterday, wasn't too keen; I'd definitely go with Doolittle.

Exactly! :band:

Pixies have some good fun party music too:

If I was forced at gunpoint to choose then I'd probably go with Doolittle.
But I'm not so I'm voting Stone Roses s/t.

disclaimer: I would normally never vote on one of these bullshit This Good Album vs. That Good Album polls but this one is especially egregious. Fuck.

Edit: I apparently already voted "meh" in general opposition to this thread. Ha!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...nter/EGG03.pngreally difficult so i went with the stone roses because it has 'i wanna be adored'

Lol, there is no competition.
Pixies are miles ahead of the vastly over-rated, over-hyped Stone Roses.
They're just Oasis with the capability to play more than two chords, wow.

look if Oasis had their melodic capacity, they wouldn't be so hated by the music geeks

Oasis is just watered-down Beatles

Stone Roses were something new for its time

^ Love this man.

^ exactly what he said.

The Pixies are a brilliant band. Although I am not sure that agree with the original poster about "Without The Pixies there would be no Nirvana" considering bleach was out in the late 80's and nirvana had been together quite a bit before then. I do agree with the oasis remark though, and although they have had SOME good songs I could easily live without them, Blur all day and everyday.

Suede for me

but that's mainly cos I'm South East Asian

That could well be the most ludicrous opinion on music I've ever come across!

Not really because I agree with him, they definitely seem to have little purpose on the album. I like The Stone Roses' s/t though it is uneven in places as was already pointed out, but when it gets good, boy does it get good. Doolittle however will always have a special little place in my heart and I will choose it over The Stone Roses' s/t any day.

You think bye bye badman is filler,right? That's what your saying?

*Checks my previous post* Yep that's what I said.

Well you're very much in the minority there I think.

Ditto about that.

What do you feel are the strengths of those two songs?

I love Bye Bye Badman personally. The lyrics relate to the student riots in Paris in the 60's which I liked, and I just think its a great song. Especially the bridge or whatever you wanna call it at the end.

I've always found Bye Bye Badman flat and uninteresting in context with the album, and unfortunately for me the lyrical content just isn't enough to save that. Unfortunately I do think it is the weakest point of the album.

That's fine, doesn't bother me.

Both of classics.
Those gorgeous opening chords of BBM and the way it effortlessly picks up a faster beat and the outro guitar lines are rarely finely wrought. The lyrics are smart too and about a cool subject that they nail.
SFMSSS has got a beautifully executed languid quality to the verses and an impassioned soaring chorus.
In composition and execution both songs are totally top class.

I just find it surprising anyone not ill-desposed to Ian Brown 'cause he's screwed your g/f would think anything like that. That's kinda why I'm replying. It's just surprising!

And yet Oasis still made a better album with Definitely Maybe (and arguably Morning Glory) than any other Britpop band could hope to achieve.

Someone has never listened to The Auteurs

I like the chorus in (Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister but that's it really, but I do think it's a better song than Bye Bye Badman. Not to say Doolittle is without it's weaker moments, despite being a stronger album in my view. Silver is certainly far from being one of my favourite Pixies songs.

I have no idea what you're on about now.

Suede - self-titled, Pulp - Different Class, The Auteurs - New Wave. Jus' sayin'.

Doolittle i find is one of the finest albums of its era. Better than Surfa Rosa in my opinion but that was still an amazing album. The Stone Roses is a classic album but they were no Pixies, they will forever be known as a one album wonder and they never had the legacy which Pixies left behind, so many bands after the Pixies wanted to be the Pixies and they have to be credited with having an influence what was a golden era in American alternative music. Then Kim Deal went and formed the Breeders, another amazing band, POD is up there with Doolittle imo.

Stone Roses just never had that legacy, they have been in recent years seen as the cool thing to listen to and have been given too much credit for influencing a golden era of british alternative rock which they were merely part of. By the early 90's the marketing men had jumped upon the bandwagon and rebranded it 'Britpop', a name which always makes me cringe. Oasis, Suede, dodgy, space, pulp and countless other instantly forgettable bands followed, it was in my mind a poor era for British alternative music and so far away from the golden years of the 80's.

Different Class comes close, but not quite. Personally, I don't think any Auteurs or Suede album comes close to the first two Oasis albums.

I voted for the Meh option. I love both albums and understand and respect the importance of both for different reason. Now if the question was: who is the better band, that would be The Pixies but when it comes to better album that's too close to call.

Doolittle every time for me and I'm from the UK, reason being i was in my early teenage years when both these albums were released and having heard bands such as Sonic youth, Minutemen, fIREHOSE, previously, the whole "american" indie rock sound appealed to me much more as at that time in the UK the Stone Roses were kind of lumped in with the whole Madchester drug scene which i had no interest in whatsoever so perhaps never gave the Roses much of a chance, i have later come to appreciate the album much more but doolittle holds much more nostalgia and meaning for me.

Now ask me to choose between Doolitte and Teenage Fanclubs Bandwagonesque and that would be a much harder choice.