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A thread for Pulp-related discussion.

Best of the Britpop bunch and Jarvis is the best songwriter of the 90's, with This Is Hardcore as the best album.
Discuss.

I have had This is Hardcore sat on my HD for months now and still not heard it. Shame on me. I think His'N'Hers is a great album full of wonderfully wry lyrics and I know they have been going for years but I don't know anything before that album. Different Class has it's moments too. Great band though.

listen to This is Hardcore now! Pulp is awesome and Jarvis is cool.

Different Class is the best album imo, but I love all their albums almost equally.

I posted something on here that seems to appear and disappear...
Anyway, i gave a listen to This Is Hardcore, and it's pretty good.
The title track is amazing, The Fear is great, TV Movie, Dishes...ah i'll have to listen to it again.

Now, where can I start with this band? I had wanted to start listening to them, but all I have is their "hits" album.
And from time to time the greatest hits albums for bands usually don't give them proper justice.

I have a starter up on The Beginner's Guide thread.

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Originally Posted by x Cheez iT (Post 810673)

just start with their début. I always start with the first album.

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Originally Posted by loveissucide (Post 810688)

I have a starter up on The Beginner's Guide thread.

Oh nice, thanks a lot. Yeah I see these guys a lot on "best of" lists but just never got around to checking them out.

Give this gem a listen:

Voted for This Is Hardcore. A very moody album with some great arrangements, especially those on the title track.

Pulp is an amazing band! I actually got into them a few months back, and I couldn't believe I hadn't really heard their stuff before. A Different Class is my favorite album and Common People would probably be one of my favorite songs ever, actually. Disco 2000 is a great one, too :)

This Is Hardcore ALL the way... all their other albums are great too, but for me, this one strikes directly at my heart and my imagination...

The Pulp song I'm addicted to right now is "Common People" from the Different Class album.

I love the sound of "Common People"...the jangly feel, the quirkiness, the prettiness, the sadness and bitterness in it, and the risque humor. I love the build-up throughout the song, too.

I gravitate toward songs that tell stories...and the story in "Common People" is both light-hearted yet serious, so that appeals to my fun side and my oh-so-serious side. Any song that manages to include grocery store visits and cockroaches in it in a meaningful way while discussing the realities of class differences and the effect of poverty (which is that people's choices and options are limited) is a hit with me. Having lived in a cockroach-infested apartment for half a year, I can relate to this song very well...especially since I was able to leave and go on to graduate school. I wasn't stuck there, like most of the residents, who were primarily elderly Arkansas retirees. I still had the hope of escape.

As anyone who knows anything about me at all here on MB knows, I love lyrics...really, lyrics alone could infatuate me, even without sound accompanying them...but in this song the lyrics mix so well with the music, enhancing each other, that I want to listen again and again (which I do):

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Pulp - "Common People" lyrics:

She came from Greece she had a thirst for knowledge
She studied sculpture at Saint Martin's College, that's where I caught her eye.
She told me that her Dad was loaded
I said in that case I'll have a rum and coke-cola.
She said fine and in thirty seconds time she said, I want to live like common people
I want to do whatever common people do, I want to sleep with common people
I want to sleep with common people like you.
Well what else could I do - I said I'll see what I can do.
I took her to a supermarket
I don't know why but I had to start it somewhere, so it started there.
I said pretend you've got no money, she just laughed and said oh you're so funny.
I said yeah? Well I can't see anyone else smiling in here.
Are you sure you want to live like common people
You want to see whatever common people see
You want to sleep with common people,
you want to sleep with common people like me.
But she didn't understand, she just smiled and held my hand.
Rent a flat above a shop, cut your hair and get a job.
Smoke some ***s and play some pool, pretend you never went to school.
But still you'll never get it right
'cos when you're laid in bed at night watching roaches climb the wall
If you call your Dad he could stop it all.
You'll never live like common people
You'll never do what common people do
You'll never fail like common people
You'll never watch your life slide out of view, and dance and drink and screw
Because there's nothing else to do.
Sing along with the common people, sing along and it might just get you thru'
Laugh along with the common people
Laugh along even though they're laughing at you and the stupid things that you do.
Because you think that poor is cool.
I want to live with common people, I want to live with common people [etc..]

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA (Post 834428)

It's a fantastic song, and a great video too. I find myself listening to it nonstop everytime I give it one listen.

Definitely one of the most memorable songs of my time in college in the 90's... love that song!

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Originally Posted by scottsy (Post 836986)

Definitely one of the most memorable songs of my time in college in the 90's... love that song!

Somehow that feels like unattainable awesomeness...=(

Oh my young adulthood had it all as far as more recent musical experiences go... it began in the early nineties when Nirvana blew up big and all these new alternative acts were being exposed, progressed into the Britpop movement, and then, as I was getting older but no wiser, it all gelled into the electronic - ness of the late nineties... I could always expect something awesome coming at me every couple of years, though, which was always refreshing and fun... the 00's were cool enough, but the constant onslaught of great music kinda slowed up a bit...

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Originally Posted by scottsy (Post 836997)

I think I have a lot of catching up to do before I start actively listening to music from my generation...which is kind of sad.

Anyway, here's an amazing Pulp song from His 'N' Hers:

Finally got around to hearing this little treat and thought I'd share it with the forum.

Admittedly it's basically Glory Days with different, vastly improved lyrics.

I'll have to listen to that when there isn't kids running around screaming through the house... sorta makes me think of the characters from Disco 2000, if you are looking for a Pulp reference...

Just listened to it... brilliant! The perfect melding of drugs and... socialism? Always loved how they drew concepts together like that though...

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk (Post 953827)

Pulp reunite for live dates in 2011 | Music | guardian.co.uk

I NEED TO SEE THEM. I really do.

It would be pretty cool. So they are going to do 2011 festivals? I bet Eavis is on the phone.

Considering how aptly they called it a day with "Bad Cover Version" and the "We Love Life" album, not to mention "The Last Day Of The Miner's Strike" single, I'm not convinced this is the best idea.

All they have committed to so far are live shows, with an original line-up. I don't really see a problem, aslong as they take it seriously enough to play together again to a degree it doesn't sound awful.

I know that was a spam bump and after I post this I am going to delete it, but it's given me an excuse to wail about Pulp, who I have become mildly obsessed with as of late.

Different Class is the best Britpop record, and I will hear no other arguments (unless it's about Blur, but they're not looking too good right now in the ballots).

the reviews they have got so far on their live comeback has been really good. I really want to see them.

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Originally Posted by loveissucide (Post 954116)

Considering how aptly they called it a day with "Bad Cover Version" and the "We Love Life" album, not to mention "The Last Day Of The Miner's Strike" single, I'm not convinced this is the best idea.

I agree, when they called it a day they had clearly run out of steam

i can't stand them

i have A Different Class and I thought I'd give it another listen to reevaluate them

nah, i couldnt get even get past the first track

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 1064127)

Different Class is the best Britpop record, and I will hear no other arguments (unless it's about Blur, but they're not looking too good right now in the ballots).

But have you heard every Britpop record?

Just picked up a copy of Different Class from a charity shop for £1, had the two Pulp songs that I had heard of (common people and disco 2000) and it's not half bad.

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Originally Posted by dazara (Post 1142467)

Just picked up a copy of Different Class from a charity shop for £1, had the two Pulp songs that I had heard of (common people and disco 2000) and it's not half bad.

your name was Dazara. Dazara;
although it never suited ya

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant (Post 1142600)

your name was Dazara. Dazara;
although it never suited ya

my house is very small

His 'n' Hers all the way for me. Pink Glove is easily one of my favourite songs and Do You Remember The First Time is beautiful!

I love the note on the back of the CD too, "please deliver us from matching sweatshirts and 'chicken in the rough'...", class!