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Rjinn 08-09-2012 01:34 PM

Uh I respect his music and has a great touch. That's all I can say. He's been played to death here though being Australian and Australians like to stick to their own successful kind to boost their ego.

Well from what I can tell.

Seriously AC/DC could take over parliament.

GrapevineFires 08-21-2012 07:08 AM

"And no more shall we part" is one of the greatest albums of all time.

I'd go so far as to say Nick Cave is arguably one of the greatest lyricists that have ever lived.

reynard the fox 09-05-2012 03:04 PM

I've loved Nick Cave for ages (I saw him live in 2005 and it was unbelievable). Recently, I'm beginning to like his albums from the 80s-early 90s better than the later ones.
Some songs are too heavily arranged, and sometimes with a disturbing lack of taste. He's still one of the best lyricists ever and the Bad Seeds are an extraordinary concentration of talented musicians. In romantic, piano-driven ballads he remained great. But I think that he sometimes tries too hard to be a wild rocker again. The haunted bluesman who sang "Tupelo", or "The Mercy Seat", or "Up Jumped The Devil", or "The Witness Song", was on another level.

blastingas10 09-05-2012 03:27 PM

Album recommendations?

Circe 09-05-2012 04:39 PM

Depends on the style you're looking for. Lyrically Murder Ballads and The Boatman's Call are the best of the Bad Seeds albums (that's not to say that the other albums don't have brilliant lyrics, just that those two are more brilliant), if you want the pure Bad Seeds experience go for Abbatoir Blues/The Lyre Of Orpheus (they're different sides to the one album) and if you want his more modern rough sound then go for Dig, Lazarus, Dig! oreither of Grinderman's albums. I can't actually comment on any Bad Seeds records pre-90s or The Birthday Party, so someone else might be able to suggest some of that stuff.

Holerbot6000 09-05-2012 05:01 PM

The only ones I would hesitate to recommend are the first two - they're pretty raw and and scary and probably for Birthday Party fans only. They're mighty good though.

Your Funeral My Trial and Tender Prey are more Southern Gothic. Is Nick lamenting his woman because she left him or because he killed her and buried her in the back yard? You're never quite sure. Brilliant stuff.

The Good Son is probably unlike any other album in the Seed's catalog. You could call it the first Ballad album, but it's a lot darker and weirder than later stuff like Boatman's. Many think it's among their very best work, and I tend to agree.

Henry's Dream and Let Love In are, I think, the albums where the modern version of the Seeds really came into their own. Still very gothic and dark but much more polished and assured musically. 'Let Love In' is one of my all time favorite records.

All highly recommended!!!

Janszoon 09-05-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1227650)
Album recommendations?

I'd recommend starting with Let Love In. Not only is it one of his best albums, but it also reflects a good variety of his various styles.

Howard the Duck 09-05-2012 09:36 PM

ok, finally heard the album

it's the best of his later releases, easily

Coz the Shroom 09-06-2012 04:25 AM

I love Nick Cave. I have always loved everything about Nick Cave. But just the title of your post makes me want to hate Nick Cave, so if you really love Nick Cave... stop!
"They have Nick Cave dolls? I want one!"

Circe 09-06-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coz the Shroom (Post 1227859)
But just the title of your post makes me want to hate Nick Cave

It might be true though. If No Pussy Blues got a couple of Radio 1 plays he'd probably become some kind of worldwide superstar in mere hours.

Noise Wall 09-06-2012 11:38 AM

I have never heard of Nick Cave, what album should I get first?


Edit - Never mind, read upwards and saw recommendations already. That said, I doubt I will be convinced of this threads claim, but I hope it is true, discovering something that great would be awesome. Ill soon offer feedback

Janszoon 09-06-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noise Wall (Post 1228040)
I have never heard of Nick Cave, what album should I get first?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1227742)
I'd recommend starting with Let Love In. Not only is it one of his best albums, but it also reflects a good variety of his various styles.

:)

Coz the Shroom 09-06-2012 05:11 PM

Sorry a bit sotted last night

Rjinn 09-20-2012 02:13 PM

Uh, how irritating. Was looking for The Birthday Party stuff and was sure we had it in stores considering they were from Melbourne and... Nothing. Did they stop distributing albums or something? :/

RTSullivan 09-21-2012 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noise Wall (Post 1228040)
I have never heard of Nick Cave, what album should I get first?


Edit - Never mind, read upwards and saw recommendations already. That said, I doubt I will be convinced of this threads claim, but I hope it is true, discovering something that great would be awesome. Ill soon offer feedback

You probably would have heard the song 'Red Right Hand' from the album 'Let Love In' which is a good album to start with.

Howard the Duck 09-21-2012 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RTSullivan (Post 1233188)
You probably would have heard the song 'Red Right Hand' from the album 'Let Love In' which is a good album to start with.

it was featured prominently in the tv series X-Files

Rewind 09-21-2012 08:28 AM

I've heard of him, he's Australian, that's always a good start.

Howard the Duck 09-21-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rewind (Post 1233224)
I've heard of him, he's Australian, that's always a good start.

yeah, just like Crocodile Dundee

Rewind 09-21-2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1233258)
yeah, just like Crocodile Dundee

Okay, you've won me over.

desperateK 12-27-2012 01:54 PM

I voted for "Very Good". He's got definitely one of the few male voices that can really move me.

Gucci Little Piggy 02-06-2013 01:13 PM

I'm starting to wonder if this is really a music board if we're not even discussing the new album, Push the Sky Away. Well, it hasn't been released officially but it's leaked, so some of us might've heard it already.

I'd say it's an 8.5/10 for me, it's a really great album. Just like The Boatman's Call it's more of a calm, ballady album but it has more variation than The Boatman's Call and I just think it's better overall, really. Third album of 2013 I listened to and my second favoruite so far (m b v probably won't be topped this year)

The Final Track 02-13-2013 09:29 AM

I really like it, I've listened to it a couple of times and some tracks are starting to stand out. We No Who U R and Jubilee Street are spectacular.

The Batlord 02-13-2013 02:50 PM

Dude, this thread is eight years old. How in god's name is this thread eight years old?! I don't know, but on December 24, 2014, I'm posting in this thread if it's not still going just for the novelty of it.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-13-2013 03:02 PM

First thread I ever started on my first day here.

The Batlord 02-13-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1286192)
First thread I ever started on my first day here.

So, you and PowerPunisher are actually kindred spirits? :laughing:

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-13-2013 03:07 PM

Had you seen the crap threads that were clogging up the indie forum in 2004 you would have written the exact same thing.

The Foo Fighters Are Awesome
The Music are Great
Who else loves the Kaiser Chiefs

The Batlord 02-13-2013 03:10 PM

You know, for an ornery old man who bitches that this place used to have standards, whenever I see threads from a few years ago, the people posting on them are just atrocious. As far as I can see this site is on a high note.

Urban Hat€monger ? 02-13-2013 03:12 PM

I consider the high point to be between 2007 & 2009, the place started going downhill when the new owners took over.

The Batlord 02-13-2013 03:14 PM

Don't feel bad. This site now has me. So it's all good.

Holerbot6000 11-03-2014 11:29 AM

Did anyone catch Nick and the Seeds on Austin City Limits? Funny to catch the boys on Public TV but they put on a hell of a show. It's interesting to see the Mach III version of the Seeds in a live situation. They are a very different band than the one I saw on the Murder Ballads tour. Warren Ellis is the musical heart of the band now. Where Mick Harvey developed a lush, orchestral sound, Ellis pares things back to a more harsh, skeletal sonic palette that is equally compelling.

Funnily enough, the bulk of the show was taken up with extended versions of pitch black early songs like 'Tupelo', 'From Her to Eternity' and 'The Mercy Seat'. It was nice to see that Nick has lost none of his incantatory power in conjuring these older songs. Barry Adamson was back in the fold also, which was very cool.

I thought 'Push the Sky' was a very good album, and I look forward to whatever these guys do next.

Zhanteimi 11-11-2014 04:13 AM

This is the only Nick Cave song I know:


Pet_Sounds 11-11-2014 06:47 AM

I think this is the oldest thread I've ever seen.

James 11-11-2014 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mordwyr (Post 1506753)
This is the only Nick Cave song I know:


Listen to more. He is a god.

The Batlord 11-11-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1506813)
I think this is the oldest thread I've ever seen.

I think I remember Urban saying that the OP was his first post on this forum, so yeah, this is pretty much a fossil.

Zhanteimi 11-11-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1506818)
Listen to more. He is a god.

Will do in due course.

TheBig3 01-09-2015 09:23 PM

Stripped down re-do of Leonard Cohen's "Avalanche" - holy ****

Hear Nick Cave's new cover of Leonard Cohen's 'Avalanche' for 'Black Sails' -- exclusive | The Music Mix | EW.com

CoNtrivedNiHilism 01-10-2015 02:13 AM

I have read this guys name in so many articles, websites, forums, torrents, that I am deciding to listen in on the guy to see what all the fuss is about. Currently, I picked a random album of his to listen to, Let Love In, and damn it, this guy has a rather seductive sounding voice, and I'm a guy saying that, so I can only imagine the women this guy can make go week at the knees just by singing to them.

Let Love In is really pulling me in, really liking this Nick Cave guy so far.

Samuel Spade 01-10-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoNtrivedNiHilism (Post 1535971)
I have read this guys name in so many articles, websites, forums, torrents, that I am deciding to listen in on the guy to see what all the fuss is about. Currently, I picked a random album of his to listen to, Let Love In, and damn it, this guy has a rather seductive sounding voice, and I'm a guy saying that, so I can only imagine the women this guy can make go week at the knees just by singing to them.

Let Love In is really pulling me in, really liking this Nick Cave guy so far.

"The Weeping Song"
"Where The Wild Roses Grow"
"Henry Lee"
"As I Sat Sadly By Her Side"
In my opinion, those are some of his best.

Justice_Jane 01-20-2015 06:11 AM

My duo partner is obsessed with Nick Cave, and for good reason. We're working on a cover of 'Easy Money', where we turn it into a duet. He's also covered 'The Weeping Song', 'Where the Wild Roses Grow' and 'Henry Lee' and desperately wants me to cover 'Loveletter' (I'm a pianist).

But my favourite Nick Cave song, by far, is 'Up Jumped the Devil' :)

Justthefacts 08-03-2016 11:30 PM

I'm gonna make Nick Cave worth a discussion again (hopefully)

As far as Nick Cave/Bad Seeds' post 90's streak goes:

No More Shall We Part > Push The Sky Away > Abbatoir Blues/Lyre Of Orpheus > Dig Lazarus Dig > Nocturama

Nocturama blows, let's face it.


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