Nick Cave is Better Than All The Artists That Have Threads In Here

Mr Nic · 06-10-2008, 01:37 PM

During my Goth phase in the 80s I went out with a girl who always put 'The Carny' on when we were getting down. Great track but not conducive to hot passion.

I've always loved The Birthday party and Cave's solo stuff. I own everything up to and including Tender Prey, but I've never bought anything since...

jackhammer · 06-10-2008, 02:36 PM

Cave is a fantastic screenwriter too. Ghosts Of The Civil Dead and The Proposition are top notch. Ghosts needs to be released in this country dammit.

the_dp · 06-10-2008, 07:05 PM

gotta say Nick Cave, although not my style, definitely can make a darn good song. I recently listened to some of his new stuff while perusing NPR. Really solid junk rock. Totally visceral listening experience, even if I don't agree with the title of the thread.

I can't agree with the Buckley comments. Being a Rufus Wainwright fan and having to tolerate all of the comparisons between the two, you can grow to hate Buckley even more than you should. THat being said, I wouldn't like his music still and never got the whole big deal about his voice.

variatingmule · 06-10-2008, 08:19 PM

Loooove Nick.

Love the fact that Warren Ellis apparently punched Jack Black on Jools Holland too (that's what some comment on youtube said, so, obviously, not quite a reliable source, but I like to entertain the notion nonetheless)

Maybe I don't know Jeff Buckley well enough, but the fact that he also covered Leonard Cohen is not enough for me to associate Jeff and Nick, or even Rufus, as artists. I kinda like all of them, but I don't think Rufus, with or without the fact that he's been around since he was a kid, has not quite reached the career heights Nick has. And that is despite how much more mainstream they are that either the B-day Party or the Bad Seeds ever were.

Dig Lazarus Dig is easily one of my favourite albums this year (I was so happy that is was coming out that I actually ordered from the UK to get it earlier).

Proggyman, I especially like that comment about him being of the best musical narrator out there, not only because I certainly feel the same, but I recently heard an interview with him in which he says he primarily saw himself as a writer.

Right now, I normally put on either Hold On To Yourself or Jesus Of The Moon on repeat all the way to work (and that's almost an hour). Really great songs.

~~Civic Depreciator~~ · 06-11-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent

yeah i'm more of a birthday party fan so i don't think he's gone quite far enough either

Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds>The Birthday Party
Needless to say, I love ' em both

Dig , Lazarus , Dig was very good , I still maintain Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheuss his best

variatingmule · 06-11-2008, 08:33 PM

One of my favourite album this year so far.

But then again, Nick could sing over himself farting and playing the washboard and I'd still go

Why? Jesus of The Moon, and Hold On To Yourself, at least.

TheBig3 · 06-12-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But thats basically the point i`ve been making all along.
I don`t deny he had potential , but he never fulfilled it. I think it`s unfair to say that someone COULD have been better than someone else if they were never around to prove that they were .Nick Cave has been putting out top quality albums for over 25 years both with the Birthday Party & his own stuff, there are not many bands that can say that. I can`t think of a single dip in quality throughout his whole career.
To suggest that Jeff Buckley is better on the strength of one album , of which he didn`t even write around a third of it just seems a bit stupid to me. And that is why I think Nick Cave is better than Jeff Buckley.Plus I think Nick Cave has a much more expressive & distinctive voice.

He's a much better musician as well.

Rainard Jalen · 06-12-2008, 05:51 PM

Right so just how good is the new album? I haven't bothered to listen to it yet. I don't trust the reviews, and need a push.

right-track · 06-12-2008, 05:52 PM

Best album I've heard all year.
It's not been out of the CD player for the last 3 weeks and it gets better every listen.

sleepy jack · 06-12-2008, 05:52 PM

The greatest.

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06-10-2008, 02:36 PM	#52 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Cave is a fantastic screenwriter too. Ghosts Of The Civil Dead and The Proposition are top notch. Ghosts needs to be released in this country dammit. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-10-2008, 08:19 PM	#54 (permalink)
variatingmule Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 78	Loooove Nick. Love the fact that Warren Ellis apparently punched Jack Black on Jools Holland too (that's what some comment on youtube said, so, obviously, not quite a reliable source, but I like to entertain the notion nonetheless) Maybe I don't know Jeff Buckley well enough, but the fact that he also covered Leonard Cohen is not enough for me to associate Jeff and Nick, or even Rufus, as artists. I kinda like all of them, but I don't think Rufus, with or without the fact that he's been around since he was a kid, has not quite reached the career heights Nick has. And that is despite how much more mainstream they are that either the B-day Party or the Bad Seeds ever were. Dig Lazarus Dig is easily one of my favourite albums this year (I was so happy that is was coming out that I actually ordered from the UK to get it earlier). Proggyman, I especially like that comment about him being of the best musical narrator out there, not only because I certainly feel the same, but I recently heard an interview with him in which he says he primarily saw himself as a writer. Right now, I normally put on either Hold On To Yourself or Jesus Of The Moon on repeat all the way to work (and that's almost an hour). Really great songs. Last edited by variatingmule; 06-12-2008 at 04:46 PM.

06-10-2008, 01:37 PM	#51 (permalink)
Mr Nic Occasionally Curmudgeonly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 87	During my Goth phase in the 80s I went out with a girl who always put 'The Carny' on when we were getting down. Great track but not conducive to hot passion. I've always loved The Birthday party and Cave's solo stuff. I own everything up to and including Tender Prey, but I've never bought anything since...

06-10-2008, 07:05 PM	#53 (permalink)
the_dp Self Reliant Independent Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 181	gotta say Nick Cave, although not my style, definitely can make a darn good song. I recently listened to some of his new stuff while perusing NPR. Really solid junk rock. Totally visceral listening experience, even if I don't agree with the title of the thread. I can't agree with the Buckley comments. Being a Rufus Wainwright fan and having to tolerate all of the comparisons between the two, you can grow to hate Buckley even more than you should. THat being said, I wouldn't like his music still and never got the whole big deal about his voice.

06-11-2008, 08:33 PM	#56 (permalink)
variatingmule Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 78	One of my favourite album this year so far. But then again, Nick could sing over himself farting and playing the washboard and I'd still go Why? Jesus of The Moon, and Hold On To Yourself, at least.

06-12-2008, 05:51 PM	#58 (permalink)
Rainard Jalen Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,221	Right so just how good is the new album? I haven't bothered to listen to it yet. I don't trust the reviews, and need a push.

06-12-2008, 05:52 PM	#59 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Best album I've heard all year. It's not been out of the CD player for the last 3 weeks and it gets better every listen.