Meh, I'm biased.
I really don't like Waits, I just can't look past those dreadful dreadful vocals.
Which doesn't happen often, I also don't think his lyrics are up to much for the most part although some of his lyrics are quite good.
That said, I think Cave knows how to write a great melody. His music is certainly as good as his lyrics.

I love Tom Waits' voice. And his lyrics.

One artist I've never took to is Mr. Waits, maybe one day it'll just click but for now he's definitely not for me.

His vocals suit the music and songs perfectly, as proved by many a disastrous cover.

Haha. That's a very good point. :laughing:

The original is the sound of throwing up into the toilet after a rough night's drinking.This sounds like something you'd see on the Andy Williams Show.

Sounds like you need to get your tie straightened.

Any non-Australians watch things like this and think "she's going to die from irikanji" or "its gunna be a damn shame when some crazy ass Aussie insect kills them both?

Also, does Kylie sorta look like Vanilla to anyone else?

I'm a Nick Cave and Tom Waits fan. I have much love for them both. That said, though, only Nick Cave is my boyfriend. Always and forever. Tom is like the crochety carnival barker/cabaret singer in my mind. And occasional balladeer. I love most of his ballads, too.

A Tom Waits story: several years ago, I was doing some internship hours at a local counseling center for my grad school program. Interning along with me was one of the younger girls in the program, a girl whose parents had paid for most of her education, her sporty red Honda, and whose taste in music included hip hop, mainstream pop, and popular '80s music (i.e., a-ha, Madonna and Wang Chung)... basically, whatever was easiest to find on the radio dial. During our internship hours, we would periodically get lunch together, usually jetting around in her little red Honda while she complained to me about her amazingly adorable ex-boyfriend who couldn't get over her and was still trying to date her, although she just wanted to be friends (oh, to suffer her problems :rolleyes:). ...Anyway, one afternoon, we decided to go to lunch in my car for a change, and I happened to have Tom Waits' Blood Money in my car stereo. The second the CD started playing, my classmate said to me (and I'm quoting verbatim), "Who is this guy? He sounds like he's retarded. Does he have something wrong with him?"

...Ahh, memories.

Anyway, yes, Nick Cave is a god. Not so much that I think he can do no wrong (Nocturama - need I say more?). But, for the most part, I love everything he turns his hand to. Lately, I've been listening to Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus again. Overall, not one of his best collections of songs, but some really great moments on both CDs. I pulled it out to listen again after hearing "O Children" from The Lyre of Orpheus in a pivotal scene in the latest Harry Potter movie. I've never been happier to hear a Nick Cave song on a soundtrack. He will remain one of my all-time favorite artists forever.

Whoa, O Children is in the latest HP movie?!? You have no idea how happy this makes me... dammit I really need to see it.

"All the donuts have names that sound like prostitutes..."



If Tom Waits doesn't write good lyrics then I have no ****ing clue who does.

Oh, and I think Tom Waits is better than Nick Cave, not by a landslide or anything though. However, I do think Nick Cave is a much better performer. Especially here:



Far better than the recorded version in my opinion.

Far better than the recorded version in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I like the ...unwaveringness (is that a word?!) of the recorded version, I think it fits the song beautifully, but that performance was awesome as well.

My English Teacher introduced me to Nick Cave after I told her I was getting into Tom Waits

I ABSOLUTELY fell in love with his music,
<--notice the ava

I've been a fan for about a month and already hes in my top artists

and then I went to see the new harry potter movie and O Children was in it, which was just too perfect, I flipped out

love this guy

By unwavering do you mean like, an Ian Curtis or Nico type of delivery? Sort of emotionally stark? If so I can see where you're coming from and can see how that would suit his type of music. I just love the raw emotional power in that other version, it seems like Nick Cave is about to break down and start sobbing or something.

Here are a couple of my favorite recent Nick Cave video clips.

"There She Goes My Beautiful World," live on Jools Holland:




Grinderman's latest video, "Heathen Child":

Actually, by "unwavering" I was more thinking of the tempo and structure of the track, the way it's built as a series of powerful leitmotifs (at least, that's how I'd describe it), and I always thought that particular structure was the perfect foil to the anguished vocals, and the tension between those two things is one of the reason I love that song. In that live version, I kinda miss that tension - mind you, I'm with you on the raw emotional power part...

If that makes sense?

I love Nick Cave, but he was definitely a part of one of the most uncomfortable mix CDs I've ever received - it was all full of lovey dovey type songs, then the last track was:



SUCH a good song, but definitely changed the entire tone of the mix. :/

I was quite surprised that wizards and witches listen to Nick Cave. (i.e. one of Nick Cave's songs was playing on the radio in a monumental scene in the latest Harry Potter movie). I thought this was pretty cool. Considering the Harry Potter films usually only use instrumental scores.

After the millionth person told me today that I am going to love Mr. Cave I decided there was somthing to sll the reccommendations and I am now looking for a starting place. Suggestions?

I don't think he's ever made a bad record, so you could probably pick any of his albums at random... Or start at the beginning, with From Her To Eternity...

I'd start with The Best of Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds. It compiles hits from his first album, From Her To Eternity, through his tenth album, The Boatman's Call. Give it some time to grow on you and if you like what you hear, then start checking out some of his albums covered in the compilation. The only album from that time period that The Best Of doesn't cover is Nick's cover version frenzy, Kicking Against the Pricks, with such memorable tracks as Johnny Cash's "Long Black Veil" (originally recorded by Lefty Frizell), Glenn Campbell's "By The Time I Get to Phoenix," Tom Jones' "Sleeping Annaleah," Leadbelly's "Black Betty," and the VU's "All Tomorrow's Parties." If you're looking for Nick's tear-stained cover of Elvis' "In the Ghetto," it appears on his first album, From Her To Eternity. His 1997 live album, Live Seeds, is a pretty good live collection of songs from the same time period.

Favorite albums after the Best Of collection include No More Shall We Part, Dig Lazarus Dig, and the 2-disc Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus. Abattoir/Orpheus is more hit-or-miss, but has some great tracks on both albums. Nocturama, the album Nick released after No More Shall We Part, is kind of a stinker, imho, and generally considered to not be one of his better ones by most fans.

You might also enjoy Nick's side project band, Grinderman, which just released their second album earlier this year.

Here's a couple more Nick clips to give you a taste of his flavor.

"In The Ghetto"



"Tupelo" (one of my favorite Caves)



Grinderman, "No Pussy Blues"

:love:

Are you angel? :rofl:

If you're Nick Cave, I'll be anything you want me to be.

Dude can't drive apparently.

:love:

Holy crap I completely missed that. I love Ed Kuepper but besides them sharing a love of heroin I never would have imagined him crossing paths with the Bad Seeds.




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Here's how I personally got into Cave.
"The good son" was playing in a record store; it played all the way through, then I went up and asked who it was, and promptly bought it.

After that I got "Henry's dream", and these two albums made me want more, so then it was "Let love in" followed by "Murder ballads", after which "The boatman's call" was released, so I was up to date then. I grabbed "No more shall we part" when it came out, and think it's a great album, but have been less impressed with some other recent efforts, such as the double "Abbatoir blues/Lyre of Orpheus", "Nocturama" and "Dig! Lazarus! Dig!" which I really didn't like.

I bought his earlier albums too, just to have them, but haven't really taken the time to get into them, if I can, though "The mercy seat" off "Tender prey" is one excellent song.

Do you have the first Birthday Party album that they released initially as Boys Next Door? It's different to earlier Boys Next Door and later Birthday Party.

i actually prefer the Birthday Party stuff to the Bad Seeds stuff

and no, I don't have any Boys Next Door

I don't have it either. As I say, I came via "The good son" and more or less went forward from there, just dipping back to complete his catalogue up to (or back to) "The firstborn is dead", but no further back than that.

I listen to The Birthday Party's album Junk Yard quite a while ago but I stopped at the fifth song because, frankly, I ****ing hated it.

Am I a bad person now?

Yeah Junk Yard wasn't great apart from maybe the album cover. Besides the first Birthday Party album (which technically was Boys Next Door) I'd probably recommend the two 12" Mutiny and Bad Seeds EPs. They are worlds away from the later albums by the Bad Seeds though. And as far as Boys Next Door I really only like Shivers off their first album.

Huh, I randomly took a listen to Let Love In and Murder Ballads and now I ****ing love Nick Cvae & the Bad Seeds. I guess Junk Yard wasn't a good introduction to Nick Cave's stuff.

try Hee Haw! or Prayers on Fire

Do you mean the Hee Haw EP or the reissue that combined the Hee Haw EP with the original self-titled album?

I will have to get Prayers on Fire. I have the 12" of Nick the Stripper but haven't heard the rest of the album.

Hee Haw reissue

edit - Junkyard is also fine with me, BTW

Didn't care for the second grindermen lp but really loved the first.
Enjoy each stage of nick cave a lot


wow this sounds almost exactly like jesus lizard

Wtf? Who is Nick Cave and why is his content "age restricted"!
I cant even vote because youtube wont even let me listen to the vids.

his songs are pretty vulgar and has lots of swearing

I think my favorite Nick & the Seeds album might still be 'Let Love In'. 'Loverman' is one of all time great Nick performances.

Now that Mick Harvey has moved on and Grinderman has broken up, I wonder, will the Seeds continue? Losing Blixa was bad enough, but Harvey was pretty integral to the Seeds sound and function as a working band. It will be interesting to see how Nick chooses to continue his career.