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Old 03-26-2009, 05:34 PM   #111 (permalink)
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I will be reading.

For your edification Nick was influenced by the magnificent The Saints initially. He has said that himself. So much so that Ed Kuepper is now the touring guitarist with The Bad Seeds, replacing Mick Harvey. If you can find it in your part of the planet Nick wrote a book called And The Ass Saw The Angel. As goth as Caves music. You may enjoy it.


I look forward to these revues.
I remember reading that. As a nice little slice of trivia Chris Bailey does the backing vocals on Bring It On (he's in the video too, I think).

Love that book as well, and it's not the fanboy in me saying that, it is a genuinely brilliant piece of fiction. I'd really recommend it.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:52 PM   #112 (permalink)
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This is the thread I have always wanted to do but was too chickenshit to even attempt.

I shall read with interest.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:58 PM   #113 (permalink)
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haha...no pressure there then, but with an attitude like this;

I have never heard one of their albums, but I do have their discography and am stung by a desire to break it open and bathe in it. I've decided to take MusicBanter with me.

...he won't go far wrong.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:34 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Been obsessed recently, one of the most consistently great artists in the last 50 years.
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Old 03-26-2009, 06:48 PM   #115 (permalink)
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Wow, thanks for the support everyone. My sister (as well as a lot of my old counselors from rehab) have turned me onto all kinds of things! I thought out of the ocean of music I've downloaded and overwhelmed myself with, that Nick Cave would be a great part of the very beginning of the road to my musical enlightenment. I'm so glad to hear that so many people will be going with me as I spend as much time as I can developing a relationship with these albums and am very excited. I'm going to start with From Her To Eternity (1984) today and will be posted within the next five depending on when I feel I have given the album justice. Keep in mind my opinion may change as I dig through The Bad Seeds discography.
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Old 03-27-2009, 07:35 PM   #116 (permalink)
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Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds:
From Her to Eternity



Iv'e spent at least a good few hours over the last couple days listening carefully and taking note on Nick Cave's From Her To Eternity. In doing so, I have developed opinions concerning all kinds of different aspects of the album. Getting on with it, I will try to summarize the key points best I can. My only hope is that my review(s) at some point serves to be useful.

Put some headphones on and crank up the volume. You're not going to want to miss a sound. Ready? From Her To Eternity begins with a dark and dour (and very personalized) covor of Leonard Cohen's Avalanche. The Heartbeat guitar, pounding drums, and enthralling burried tones set the gound for a theatrical, and emotional, rollercoaster.

Know now that Nick Cave is a master of storytelling. Carrying us from our own cosy domains into the slow-paced and morose world of From Her to Eternity. Each track tells a tale, just bleeding of expression. The Bad Seeds, taking full advantage of their instruments and Cave's diverse delivery, both lyrically and musically have birthed scenes which move like acid-induced chaos; geometrically percise, completely random, and all-encompasing as it even envades your way of thinking. I can honestly say it quickly took me the he!! out of my room.

Although this slow-paced atmosphere may be uncomfortable at times, I think it is necessary to paint such a realistic picture. Songs like Saint Huck or A Box For Black Paul seemed to drag on. After some thought, and lot of re-listening, I personally believe the album on a whole benefits from this more then any damage it may have caused.

In conclusion, From Her To Eternity was one of the most interesting albums I've come across. Theatrical, enthralling, and morose- very well done. Before I finish, I want to advice to skip over In The Ghetto, The Moon Is In The Gutter, and the 1997 cut of From Her To Eternity. The original vinyl did not contain any of those songs as they all released after the LP debuted, and I think they take from the album on a whole.

17/20

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Old 03-28-2009, 01:46 PM   #117 (permalink)
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It's a great album that (Saint Huck is a brilliant song), but I do think they've done better over the years, and it's not exactly one I listen to an awful lot these days.

Good review all the same. Looking forward to some more from you.
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Nice review... FHTE isn't one I normally crank (I'm more into the 90's) but its just a great debut for what was to come.
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It's a great album that (Saint Huck is a brilliant song), but I do think they've done better over the years, and it's not exactly one I listen to an awful lot these days.

Good review all the same. Looking forward to some more from you.
Saint Huck is a great song, but my favorites on the album are Cabin Fever! and From Her To Eternity. Although I think the 1997 version of it is awful in comparison to the original. The Moon Is In The Gutter is great as well, but I don't really consider it part of the album. As far as my next review- it may be about a week before it's up, I've been so packed with schoolwork!

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I could send you a PM sometime today if you want, or if you have AIM that'll work too. Any Nick Cave album. Just ask through PM.

Man.. I need to start on the second review for this. I wish I was graduated and less overworked already. Sorry for the delay (lot of things came-up), It'll be done by Sunday.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:40 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
The Firstborn Is Dead (1985)


Some things to ntoe before I start:
Beowulf is an Old English heroic epic poem of unknown authorship from between the 8Th to the early 11Th century. It is written in Iambic Pentameter, so it flows off the tongue like music. It tells a great story, and being the T.v of that time, was powerful enough to stain time itself. I have found after spinning The Bad Seeds first couple studio albums that Nick Cave is a writer of his own dark and twisted modernized epics. Trust me. If you spin these albums enough, you may find yourself in a completely different world.

Before I really get into The Firstborn Is Dead, I want to make a note to any Nick Cave fans who aren't familiar with his work during the 80's and are interested in looking backwards. Although I would never peak what's in store for me and my discography review by skimming the later decades, I have been told that Cave's early work can be very different then his more modern releases. Keep this in mind, and try to just let it grow on you. You won't be disappointed, these last two albums have been fantastic.
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Never judge an album by the opening track. Tupelo, as contrasting it is in its trickery, had me thinking The Firstborn Is Dead was going to be as morose and unsettling as From Her To Eternity. By the end of the fourth track, my mind just bubbling with a mesh of a deep American blues and folklore, I had learned my lesson.

Before we continue, I'm overwhelmingly compelled to first give justice to a few tracks. I've heard people talk of Tupelo being the gem of the entire album, and it baffles me. Although it does reflect some of the all-encompassing energy and chaos of From Her To Eternity- saying it's the gem of the album is to miss the album completely
(In my opinion).

The real beauty of this album, to me, started to make its impression upon the beginning of the second track. In From Her To Eternity we were taken on a slow-paced and gothic journey. The Firstborn is dead is completely different. A certain deep, southern bluesy atmosphere takes hold during Say Goodbye To The Little Girl Tree. Although the third track is not without a jolting sense of frantic mania, and the fourth feels as though there is a cult following, I feel like the entire album maintains this bluesy feel to it throughout the work. This makes for enthralling entertainment as well as a sense of flow and overall unity in the album.

I was pretty much devastated to hear through here and through there that the sharp, beautiful despair of Knockin' On Joe or the perfectly creepy, maddening blues, of Blind Lemon Jefferson is supposedly exclusive to The Firstborn Is Dead. Why such incredibly songs weren't expanded upon in future albums is a mystery to me currently, but I am eager to find out.

In any case, the second half of the album is wonderfully done as well. The track Wanted Man evolved from a song composed by Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash, which Cave was granted permission to alter the lyrics. This is really just an added treat as Dylan himself never released a studio version of the song. The Six Strings that Drew Blood is included on the CD version of the album, but not on the LP. It was the B-side of the "Tupelo" single and a re-recording of a song Cave originally recorded with The Birthday Party during the Mutiny sessions in 1982. The Last song on the album is the Single version of Tupelo, which is about the same as the original.

Not only Nick Cave should get credit for this album, of course. Although his vocals are much more then menacing and he is the lead of the band, The Bad Seeds did a phenomenal job here. Mick Harvey and Barry Adamson deserve much props for their stunning work on the drums and bass, which make up a huge aspect of the album. As well as Blixa Bargeld for his creepily bluesy guitar and back-up vocals (which alone would have me rofl), but none-the-less are a necessity.

On a whole there is much to be said about this album. Unlike the album before it, it was much less wild, frenetic, or gothic, drawing particularly on the deep well of Southern American blues and folklore. I suppose it is also to be noted that this is supposed to be a bit different, lyrically and musically, from anything else in his catalog. Slow, brooding songs like Knockin' On Joe, or Blind Lemon Jefferson (all very bluesy) and The Six Strings That Drew Blood give off a wonderfully murderous feeling, while songs like Tupelo and Train Long-Suffering have a sense of excitement and mania, and yet somehow the entire album flows beautifully. Overall it's a masterpiece of southern blues, stunning imagery, and a throbbing sense of intensity that only Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds could deliver.

20/20
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A note to everybody who hasn't washed themselves dirty in this wonderful album:
I procrastinated on this review, kept getting distracted. Oh man, you guys, I'm telling you; I was jerking myself out of something wonderful. If you can appreciate the blues, please give The Firstborn Is Dead a few good spins to grow on you. To grow on and devour you whole like the beautiful beast The Bad Seeds are turning out to be. I think my ears might be stained like this forever and the barren core of my soul is thoroughly covered with goosebumps.

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