Guided By Voices

Roygbiv · 01-25-2009, 10:17 PM

I'm excited to listen to Propeller. Alien Lanes far exceeded my expectations.

28 song sin 40 minutes!

dirkmcquickley · 01-27-2009, 04:27 AM

I've got that best of that was out a few years ago. Really good stuff.

FireInCairo · 01-27-2009, 04:37 AM

Hey molecules, they sound great.
could you please pm a link?

Rubber · 01-27-2009, 11:57 PM

ngob · 03-05-2009, 06:11 PM

I am forcing myself to listen to Bee Thousand at this very moment. I get the feeling that I am supposed to like Guided By Voices because I like "alternative rock". But their top tags are "indie rock" and lo-fi.
last.fm/tag/lo-fi/artists (I don't have enough posts to make links). Beck rocks. Ween too. I can listen to those Elephant 6 bands. Beat Happening is good. I just can't stand the top two lo-fi bands (Pavement is #1).
The other bands have more interesting influences, some folk, some blues, some twee. But what influenced Guided By Voices? Wikipedia says:
"Guided by Voices' work shows influence from post-British Invasion garage rock, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, punk rock and post-punk."
I actually like all of those genres and I don't see them in GBV.
I finished listening to the whole album as I wrote this. Not one song jumped out and grabbed me, except I Am a Scientist, because it was familiar.
Is this the kind of music that I have to listen to multiple times until it grows on me? Because I think I would rather spend my time exploring other music that hooks me right away, like some 70s prog or 60s psych. Or from the lo-fi genre: last.fm/music/bob%20log%20iii Bob Log III. That guy rocks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo-fi_music Wikipedia again:
'Many artists associated with the lo-fi movement, such as Bill Callahan, or Bob Log III, have frequently rejected the use of finer recording equipment, trying to keep their sound raw instead, whereas others such as Guided by Voices and The Mountain Goats slowly moved to using professional studios.'
I guess it is just the "indie rock" that I don't like (top bands at last.fm: Killers, Arctic Monkeys, Bloc Party).

ngob · 03-05-2009, 06:17 PM

I did not realize this was an Indie subforum. Now I feel like a dummy. Coming in here to hate on your music.
I didn't really know how the post was going to go until I finished writing it.

woodstockt67 · 03-06-2009, 03:53 AM

I knew Robert pollards daughter my sister went to school with her. Can't say I ever met him though. I know they busted tale for years trying to make well on a music career. I don't think they ever made it to the mainstream, but I could be wrong about that. It depends I guess on what some call mainstream.

Rainard Jalen · 03-06-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngob

I am forcing myself to listen to Bee Thousand at this very moment. I get the feeling that I am supposed to like Guided By Voices because I like "alternative rock". But their top tags are "indie rock" and lo-fi.
last.fm/tag/lo-fi/artists (I don't have enough posts to make links). Beck rocks. Ween too. I can listen to those Elephant 6 bands. Beat Happening is good. I just can't stand the top two lo-fi bands (Pavement is #1).
The other bands have more interesting influences, some folk, some blues, some twee. But what influenced Guided By Voices? Wikipedia says:
"Guided by Voices' work shows influence from post-British Invasion garage rock, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, punk rock and post-punk."
I actually like all of those genres and I don't see them in GBV.
I finished listening to the whole album as I wrote this. Not one song jumped out and grabbed me, except I Am a Scientist, because it was familiar.
Is this the kind of music that I have to listen to multiple times until it grows on me? Because I think I would rather spend my time exploring other music that hooks me right away, like some 70s prog or 60s psych. Or from the lo-fi genre: last.fm/music/bob%20log%20iii Bob Log III. That guy rocks.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo-fi_music Wikipedia again:
'Many artists associated with the lo-fi movement, such as Bill Callahan, or Bob Log III, have frequently rejected the use of finer recording equipment, trying to keep their sound raw instead, whereas others such as Guided by Voices and The Mountain Goats slowly moved to using professional studios.'
I guess it is just the "indie rock" that I don't like (top bands at last.fm: Killers, Arctic Monkeys, Bloc Party).

That you like "alternative rock" but not "indie rock" makes no sense at all. Indie rock IS "alternative" rock - hence, the usual tag "indie/alternative". Me thinks what you actually like is mainstream rock - particularly, the sort that has unfortunately been wrongly attributed with the adjective "alternative".

GBV is the quintessential lo-fi indie pop/rock. If you were expecting The Killers and Bloc Party, then you came to the wrong band. If you were looking for something a little more profound, unusual and interesting, then you found it. Doesn't mean you have to like it or anything. But it's cutting edge music, going way beyond the kind of mundanity exhibited by Incubus, the Foo Fighters and Nickelback.

Pornographie Nouveau · 03-06-2009, 11:02 AM

Only like Bee Thousand. IF I WAITED FOR YOU TO SIGNIFY THE MOVES THAT I SHOULD MAKE

I've heard Propellor and Alien Lanes too. Meh.

ngob · 03-06-2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

That you like "alternative rock" but not "indie rock" makes no sense at all. Indie rock IS "alternative" rock - hence, the usual tag "indie/alternative". Me thinks what you actually like is mainstream rock - particularly, the sort that has unfortunately been wrongly attributed with the adjective "alternative".

GBV is the quintessential lo-fi indie pop/rock. If you were expecting The Killers and Bloc Party, then you came to the wrong band. If you were looking for something a little more profound, unusual and interesting, then you found it. Doesn't mean you have to like it or anything. But it's cutting edge music, going way beyond the kind of mundanity exhibited by Incubus, the Foo Fighters and Nickelback.

I guess I should have been more specific when I said 'alternative rock', since that label encompasses practically everything. I was thinking more in the vein of Pixies and Pavement. I like those bands. I do not like any band listed in your post.

Post-punk is probably under alternative rock too, and GBV was supposedly influenced by that movement. I am listening to bands like The Sound, The Chameleons and Wire. They all have a musical hook that I don't hear in GBV. I just find it boring and I don't think I can get over that.

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ngob Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cardboard Box Posts: 5	mho I am forcing myself to listen to Bee Thousand at this very moment. I get the feeling that I am supposed to like Guided By Voices because I like "alternative rock". But their top tags are "indie rock" and lo-fi. last.fm/tag/lo-fi/artists (I don't have enough posts to make links). Beck rocks. Ween too. I can listen to those Elephant 6 bands. Beat Happening is good. I just can't stand the top two lo-fi bands (Pavement is #1). The other bands have more interesting influences, some folk, some blues, some twee. But what influenced Guided By Voices? Wikipedia says: "Guided by Voices' work shows influence from post-British Invasion garage rock, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, punk rock and post-punk." I actually like all of those genres and I don't see them in GBV. I finished listening to the whole album as I wrote this. Not one song jumped out and grabbed me, except I Am a Scientist, because it was familiar. Is this the kind of music that I have to listen to multiple times until it grows on me? Because I think I would rather spend my time exploring other music that hooks me right away, like some 70s prog or 60s psych. Or from the lo-fi genre: last.fm/music/bob%20log%20iii Bob Log III. That guy rocks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo-fi_music Wikipedia again: 'Many artists associated with the lo-fi movement, such as Bill Callahan, or Bob Log III, have frequently rejected the use of finer recording equipment, trying to keep their sound raw instead, whereas others such as Guided by Voices and The Mountain Goats slowly moved to using professional studios.' I guess it is just the "indie rock" that I don't like (top bands at last.fm: Killers, Arctic Monkeys, Bloc Party).

03-05-2009, 06:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
ngob Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cardboard Box Posts: 5	my bad I did not realize this was an Indie subforum. Now I feel like a dummy. Coming in here to hate on your music. I didn't really know how the post was going to go until I finished writing it. Last edited by ngob; 03-05-2009 at 06:36 PM.

03-06-2009, 03:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
woodstockt67 Groupie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 3	I knew Robert pollards daughter my sister went to school with her. Can't say I ever met him though. I know they busted tale for years trying to make well on a music career. I don't think they ever made it to the mainstream, but I could be wrong about that. It depends I guess on what some call mainstream.

03-06-2009, 11:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
Pornographie Nouveau Hip Priest Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK Posts: 302	Only like Bee Thousand. IF I WAITED FOR YOU TO SIGNIFY THE MOVES THAT I SHOULD MAKE I've heard Propellor and Alien Lanes too. Meh.