The Official XTC Thread (rock, vinyl, album, solo, tracks)

4ZZZ · 12-30-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

Skylarking isn't pop. It's pop/rock and alternative pop/rock, but not purely pop.

I beg to differ. Purely a Chamber pop album of the highest quality.

4ZZZ · 12-30-2008, 07:41 PM

XTC are a magnificent band who's music has stood the test of time. I would recommend Chalkhills And Children by Chris Twomey if anyone wants to read a bio. Very good indeed.

I had the pleasure of seeing them perform on September 19, 1980 at Festival Hall, Brisbane. Support was Magazine. Nice double. Drums And Wire was an influential album for me personally. Though very much a New Wave power pop band on their first albums, Drums And Wires was the album that exposed just how good songwriters Partridge and, to a lessor degree, Moulding would become. Lyrically clever with catchy pop hooks and as time went on smart production. Future albums such as Black Sea, English Settlement and Skylarking are magnificent pop albums and worthy of being in any serious collection. Most other releases are generally fine albums especially for the aficionado, such as my self.

~~euphoria z~~ · 12-30-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 4ZZZ

I beg to differ. Purely a Chamber pop album of the highest quality.

Skylarking is definitely not chamber pop. For reference, the following are chamber pop artists: Belle & Sebastian, Cardinal, The High Llamas, Lambchop, Eric Matthews, and Tindersticks.

Way to go, champ.

4ZZZ · 12-30-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

Skylarking is definitely not chamber pop. For reference, the following are chamber pop artists: Belle & Sebastian, Cardinal, The High Llamas, Lambchop, Eric Matthews, and Tindersticks.

Way to go, champ.

I am not too sure why you are being sarcastic to me. I gave an opinion with out any intention of sarcasm. Why are you being sarcastic to me? I guess I should harden up but to be brutal it is rubbish like this that puts me off contributing as I find this type of flaming annoying and immature. Learn some manners. I suspect that my musical listening at just on 50 years gives me a right to an opinion and IN MY OPINION it is a chamber pop album. I also own every single XTC album and have seen them live and that is why I have formulated that opinion. Through experience. Gain it! It is a useful commodity.
I am very easy to get along so lets keep it that way.

As to the Artists that you have mentioned, I have every album by Belle & Sebastian and agree, I have recently reviewed the latest Tinderticks album on Music Banters album reviews thread. Just perhaps you would like to find it and make an intelligent contribution. As to Lambchop I have a couple of albums and do not consider them Chamber Pop but if you, in the interests of intelligent discussion would like to point me in the direction of the albums that they have released that in your opinion are Chamber Pop, and in fact to allow us to discuss on a correct and proper level, link me to them, I will listen to them with out prejudice and give you an intelligent and non belligerent opinion.

~~euphoria z~~ · 12-30-2008, 08:50 PM

So age=musical knowledge?

Maybe your crustaceous brain needs a reminder on just what chamber pop truly is:

Drawing heavily from the lush, orchestrated work of performers including Brian Wilson, Burt Bacharach, and Lee Hazlewood, Chamber Pop arose largely as a reaction to the lo-fi aesthetic dominant throughout much of the 1990s alternative music community. Inspired in part by the lounge-music revival but with a complete absence of irony or kitsch, chamber pop placed a renewed emphasis on melody and production, as artists layered their baroque, ornate songs with richly textured orchestral strings and horns, all the while virtually denying the very existence of grunge, electronica, and other concurrent musical movements.

That being said, everything I've heard by Lambchop I'd consider chamber pop, except Decline of Country & Western Civilization. Unfortunately, I don't really have any links to them.

Also, loosen up please. I'm just messing around. Why does everything have to be done in an intelligent manner on a music forum? That's what school/work is for (and the reason why they are no fun).

4ZZZ · 12-30-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

So age=musical knowledge?

No. But after a life time of listening to music in all of it's many forms I believe that my opinion is valid and at least deserves an intelligent reply as to why you may differ from said opinion.

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

Maybe your crustaceous brain needs a reminder on just what chamber pop truly is:

This crustaceous old brain needs no cut and paste history lesson to form an opinion. I have no issue with you differing to my interpretation. I have an issue with petty insults because you disagree.

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

That being said, everything I've heard by Lambchop I'd consider chamber pop, except Decline of Country & Western Civilization. Unfortunately, I don't really have any links to them.

Best learn how to contribute.

I have discovered that it is a big plus on Music Banter.

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Originally Posted by euphoria z

Also, loosen up please. I'm just messing around. Why does everything have to be done in an intelligent manner on a music forum? That's what school/work is for (and the reason why they are no fun).

I need to loosen up? Was it not you being sarcastic to me?
I do take my music seriously and prefer intelligence but it can be fun without the petty insults. I do have a sense of humour and I promise you I am easy to get along with. I will say no more. In fact I regret replying to your initial post. I did not join this forum to be involved in childish spats. Peace.

jackhammer · 12-31-2008, 11:01 AM

One of the U.K's most underated bands. 'English Settlement ' is the schizz.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-31-2008, 05:18 PM

I seem to be going against the grain here a bit because personally I think they lost something after English Settlement.

I don't know if it's anything to do with them becoming a studio band after Andy Partridge's breakdown or taking a more mellower direction but I never really warmed to albums like Skylarking or Nonsuch in the way I did to the earlier ones.

Don't get me wrong I think there are some great songs on their post 1982 albums , I just find those later albums tend to drag on a bit when I listen to them , which to be honest isn't very often.

Andy Partridge also made a solo album in 1981 called Take Away / The Lure Of Salvage which is well worth seeking out.

jackhammer · 12-31-2008, 05:21 PM

I could'nt get into Skylarking either. Do you think the Trevor Horn production stifled them a little?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-31-2008, 05:26 PM

Todd Rundgren ?

Maybe he was a bit overpowering but I suspect thats the reason they chose him.

12-31-2008, 11:01 AM	#17 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	One of the U.K's most underated bands. 'English Settlement ' is the schizz. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

12-31-2008, 05:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I seem to be going against the grain here a bit because personally I think they lost something after English Settlement. I don't know if it's anything to do with them becoming a studio band after Andy Partridge's breakdown or taking a more mellower direction but I never really warmed to albums like Skylarking or Nonsuch in the way I did to the earlier ones. Don't get me wrong I think there are some great songs on their post 1982 albums , I just find those later albums tend to drag on a bit when I listen to them , which to be honest isn't very often. Andy Partridge also made a solo album in 1981 called Take Away / The Lure Of Salvage which is well worth seeking out. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

12-31-2008, 05:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	I could'nt get into Skylarking either. Do you think the Trevor Horn production stifled them a little? __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

12-31-2008, 05:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Todd Rundgren ? Maybe he was a bit overpowering but I suspect thats the reason they chose him. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

12-30-2008, 07:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
4ZZZ Forever young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 608	XTC are a magnificent band who's music has stood the test of time. I would recommend Chalkhills And Children by Chris Twomey if anyone wants to read a bio. Very good indeed. I had the pleasure of seeing them perform on September 19, 1980 at Festival Hall, Brisbane. Support was Magazine. Nice double. Drums And Wire was an influential album for me personally. Though very much a New Wave power pop band on their first albums, Drums And Wires was the album that exposed just how good songwriters Partridge and, to a lessor degree, Moulding would become. Lyrically clever with catchy pop hooks and as time went on smart production. Future albums such as Black Sea, English Settlement and Skylarking are magnificent pop albums and worthy of being in any serious collection. Most other releases are generally fine albums especially for the aficionado, such as my self.

12-30-2008, 08:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
~~euphoria z~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 50	So age=musical knowledge? Maybe your crustaceous brain needs a reminder on just what chamber pop truly is: Drawing heavily from the lush, orchestrated work of performers including Brian Wilson, Burt Bacharach, and Lee Hazlewood, Chamber Pop arose largely as a reaction to the lo-fi aesthetic dominant throughout much of the 1990s alternative music community. Inspired in part by the lounge-music revival but with a complete absence of irony or kitsch, chamber pop placed a renewed emphasis on melody and production, as artists layered their baroque, ornate songs with richly textured orchestral strings and horns, all the while virtually denying the very existence of grunge, electronica, and other concurrent musical movements. That being said, everything I've heard by Lambchop I'd consider chamber pop, except Decline of Country & Western Civilization. Unfortunately, I don't really have any links to them. Also, loosen up please. I'm just messing around. Why does everything have to be done in an intelligent manner on a music forum? That's what school/work is for (and the reason why they are no fun).