Most Influential and Best Manchester Band (track, quote)

the_dp · 09-05-2008, 10:19 PM

I still consider the Stone Roses first album to be one of the greatest works every recorded. People can say what they want about the other bands but that album was the only album that mattered when it came out and is still as listenable now as it was then. While that album is one of the best five albums to EVER be recorded, the others were in the tops 200 of the past fifty years at best. While that is still an accomplishment, nothing else on this list holds a candle to The Stone Roses first album. Not even close.

FireInCairo · 09-06-2008, 04:15 AM

for me its a toss up between joy division and the smiths
while the stone roses first album is genius....they havent really done anything else of any worth...

the smiths have an incontestable body of work
the queen is dead and meat is murder are near faultless for me
and morrissey and marr have gone on to do awesome things

while joy division are one of the most enigmatic and brilliant bands i have ever heard with two fantastic albums
no one can possibly sound like joy division
and the band went on to form new order
who also kick ass...

i cant decide

WaspStar · 09-06-2008, 07:04 AM

I think the best band are the Roses.

But Buzzcococks were the most influential and, for me, Spiral Scratch is the ultimate punk document. Four tracks, ten minutes, and pure perfection.

And are we counting New Order? You could argue their aesthetic qualities, but I think they were pretty influential on the dance scene.

GravitySlips · 09-06-2008, 08:47 AM

i like almost all the bands mentioned in the thread, but The Fall are my favourites of all time so I'd say they're my "best". As for influential, not sure at all about that.

15Steps · 09-06-2008, 01:04 PM

oasis? lol.

jackhammer · 09-06-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Yeah , And let's just ignore all those hard rock/metal bands in the 70s / early 80s he influenced too shall we.

I know. That John Mayall geezer was'nt that important at all was he?

~~ADELE~~ · 09-06-2008, 02:58 PM

Noone like the charlatans then?

Minstrel · 09-06-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

Noone like the charlatans then?

I like them a lot, but it's hard to argue for influence with them. They're an example of the Rose's influence, IMO.

~~ADELE~~ · 09-06-2008, 03:30 PM

I guess the two words simply and red mean nothing to you philistines then.
And heres me thinking you had musical knowledge and a sprinkling of taste.

Minstrel · 09-06-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE

I guess the two words simply and red mean nothing to you philistines then.
And heres me thinking you had musical knowledge and a sprinkling of taste.

Sorry to disappoint you!

You put Oasis ahead of Stone Roses, Joy Division, Buzz****s, Happy Mondays and the Charlatans. And didn't even mention The Fall.

If that's "taste," I don't want any, thanks.

09-06-2008, 04:15 AM	#22 (permalink)
FireInCairo Later on... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,235	for me its a toss up between joy division and the smiths while the stone roses first album is genius....they havent really done anything else of any worth... the smiths have an incontestable body of work the queen is dead and meat is murder are near faultless for me and morrissey and marr have gone on to do awesome things while joy division are one of the most enigmatic and brilliant bands i have ever heard with two fantastic albums no one can possibly sound like joy division and the band went on to form new order who also kick ass... i cant decide __________________ O G MUDBONE: Only You can prevent forest fires.

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WaspStar Back to mono Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 509	I think the best band are the Roses. But Buzzcococks were the most influential and, for me, Spiral Scratch is the ultimate punk document. Four tracks, ten minutes, and pure perfection. And are we counting New Order? You could argue their aesthetic qualities, but I think they were pretty influential on the dance scene. __________________ "This sure doesn't look like 'Crazy Ernie's Amazing Emporium of Total Bargain Madness!'"

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15Steps The Passenger Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bucketheadland Posts: 583	oasis? lol. __________________

09-05-2008, 10:19 PM	#21 (permalink)
the_dp Self Reliant Independent Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 181	I still consider the Stone Roses first album to be one of the greatest works every recorded. People can say what they want about the other bands but that album was the only album that mattered when it came out and is still as listenable now as it was then. While that album is one of the best five albums to EVER be recorded, the others were in the tops 200 of the past fifty years at best. While that is still an accomplishment, nothing else on this list holds a candle to The Stone Roses first album. Not even close.

09-06-2008, 08:47 AM	#24 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	i like almost all the bands mentioned in the thread, but The Fall are my favourites of all time so I'd say they're my "best". As for influential, not sure at all about that.

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~~ADELE~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Posts: 466	Noone like the charlatans then?

09-06-2008, 03:30 PM	#29 (permalink)
~~ADELE~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Posts: 466	I guess the two words simply and red mean nothing to you philistines then. And heres me thinking you had musical knowledge and a sprinkling of taste.