Really dumb genre discussion, go.... (soundtrack, electronic, blues, country)

sleepy jack · 05-21-2008, 08:15 PM

How can you call my definition of lo-fi wrong when you're too scared to even present your own?

How about you actually argue instead of just going "you're wrong" and stuffing words in my mouth? I already said recording quality LIKE THE ADVERTS I never said the Adverts in specific, once again please stop telling what I'm saying and what I'm not saying.

Love Wheel isn't fuzzy, I can't listen to the video because youtube won't play for me anymore but I have the album and I put on the song now there is no fuzz, unless you consider distortion fuzz in which I guess Nevermind by Nirvana is a lo-fi album too? If there's any fuzz its because the youtube video is simply low quality not the recording itself. I will upload the song for you if you can't refer to it yourself.

sleepy jack · 05-21-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Slint

I already gave you my own definition. It's back a page or two.

So indie rockers recording on a fourtrack machine is a genre? Well okay then seeing as Daniel Johnston recorded Fun in a studio not exactly lo-fi by your standards is it? You make no sense.

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I don't understand. When did I put words in your mouth?

See below.

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When you said "like The Adverts", you were providing them as an example. Here, I'll show you what you typed again.

You were saying The Adverts were one of the bands that use primitive recording quality and that people described them as lo-fi based on that. I'm just wondering who you were talking about specifially when you said "people".

I was providing their recording quality as an example, not them. Stop telling me what I did and didn't say and trying to change the definition of what I said.

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It sounds fuzzy to me. The problem with this point is it's kind of subjective.

It's really not subjective, the only thing "fuzzy" in there is the distortion.

Strummer521 · 05-21-2008, 08:44 PM

In regards to the whole lo-fi argument...no band is really part of any genre, objectively. Genres are representative terms that are part of a shortcut system of explaining things for fans and critics. Is it wrong to decide that a band fits into one category or another, I don't see how it can be, as there's no universally accepted reference point. Psychology has the DSM as its source for all standards and labels, for instance, but pop music has no equivalent, so can't we just let each other use generic labels however we like?

Strummer521 · 05-21-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slint

Bands only belong to one genre. They can have different styles though.

well if we're talking lo-fi, that'd be a subgenre, and if you check the allmusic guide, I believe it would back that up. Anyway, bands can easily combine genres...I hate to use them as an example, but was Limp Bizkit rap or metal? weren't they, albeit, in a very sh!tty way, both? Subgenres are more easily combined than genres, I suppose, because they're more specific in their characteristics. But who are you to limit bands to one genre? Did you email all of them to let them know? We wouldn't want any of them f-ing up and going to jail.

swim · 05-21-2008, 09:01 PM

Most bands don't fit into just one genre.

Strummer521 · 05-21-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slint

When I mean genre, I'm talking the most basic of basics. I'm talking that the only genres in my opinion are avant-garde, blues, cajun, celtic, comedy, country, easy listening, electronica, folk, gospel, jazz, latin, new age, r&b, rap, reggae, rock, soundtrack, vocal, and world. Then it comes down to styles.

Even so...also: Why doesn't Cajun fit into folk or world, since it's a strictly regional type of music (although the term world music is a very lazy classification).

swim · 05-21-2008, 09:30 PM

Thats great and all but Blues, Cajun, Celtic, Country and World are all Folk. Soundtracks isn't a genre. Pretty much you don't know your stuff so there's no point in arguing.

swim · 05-22-2008, 07:15 PM

Who's being rude? Folk is regional music which is equivalent to Cajun, Celtic and World all of those are regional music. Folk is simply music of the common people. Country and Blues are off springs of American folk or as you would say different styles of American folk. I mean if we're going to be looking at everything in the big picture.

swim · 05-23-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slint

You said that I clearly don't know anything. Sure what you said about folk is true if you want to take the literal definition of it. But I'm talking more about the sound and you can draw a distinct line between folk music and those other genres listed.

There's no difference between world and folk and all the others are specific sounds of the folk. Anyway the point is bands can cross over genres.

swim · 05-23-2008, 07:06 PM

So american folk and blues are two completely genres?

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swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Thats great and all but Blues, Cajun, Celtic, Country and World are all Folk. Soundtracks isn't a genre. Pretty much you don't know your stuff so there's no point in arguing. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

05-22-2008, 07:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	Who's being rude? Folk is regional music which is equivalent to Cajun, Celtic and World all of those are regional music. Folk is simply music of the common people. Country and Blues are off springs of American folk or as you would say different styles of American folk. I mean if we're going to be looking at everything in the big picture. __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/

05-23-2008, 07:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
swim dontcareaboutyou Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Carolina Posts: 5,188	So american folk and blues are two completely genres? __________________ http://nakednaps.bandcamp.com/