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CaptainSuck 05-05-2008 03:51 PM

Blatant Moldy Peaches ripoff
 
Wow, I came this close to vomiting. An Atlantica commercial just played with the exact vocal patterns/tradeoffs and melody as The Moldy Peaches' now signature tune "Anyone Else But You".
Juno further cheapens the current music scene by introducing "novelty" acts to scene kids. Ugh.

Farfisa 05-05-2008 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSuck (Post 476736)
Wow, I came this close to vomiting. An Atlantica commercial just played with the exact vocal patterns/tradeoffs and melody as The Moldy Peaches' now signature tune "Anyone Else But You".
Juno further cheapens the current music scene by introducing "novelty" acts to scene kids. Ugh.

Excatly how I feel about Juno. I just wish Juno had never existed.

simplephysics 05-05-2008 06:49 PM

You could say that about any "indie" inspired movie. Look at what Zach Braff did for The Shins. Besides, Kimya Dawson is probably pretty damn pleased with the Juno soundtrack, I'm sure her iTunes download count quadrupled since it's release.

CaptainSuck 05-05-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ComingUpRoses (Post 476760)
You could say that about any "indie" inspired movie. Look at what Zach Braff did for The Shins. Besides, Kimya Dawson is probably pretty damn pleased with the Juno soundtrack, I'm sure her iTunes download count quadrupled since it's release.

On one hand, I think its great that these artists are getting recognition for their innovation and willingness to push the envelope. On the other hand, sitting directly in the center of a blossoming scene is grotesque for just about everyone who was there from the start.
Music's been so developmentally stagnant for so long it's easy to forget what it's like to have your intimate "friends" fall with the in-crowd.

sleepy jack 05-05-2008 08:17 PM

I don't think Kimya Dawson is the kind of person to care if she no longer has "indie cred" because she was part of an awesome soundtrack for a good movie. I don't see how the Moldy Peaches are a novelty act for scene kids though...

Billy_Martin 05-05-2008 08:18 PM

You Juno haters need to calm down... Whats wrong with a basically unknown artist making a little money off of a fantastic movie? You can't help the people buying the soundtrack or song.

No one got mad Dennis Hopper for exposing the world to Steppenwolf when he complied the music for the Easy Rider soundtrack.

sleepy jack 05-05-2008 08:23 PM

Oh I also don't see how The Moldy Peaches being ripped off by Atlantica is now Juno's fault. Christ now I know why boo boo gets so fed up with this hipster bullshit.

boo boo 05-06-2008 06:48 AM

Ah Juno. What an annoying bitch.

She calls Sonic Youth crap and through the whole movie plays all this dull twee pop crap I can't stand. Paulie should have dumped that bitch yo.

Farfisa 05-06-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy_Martin (Post 476773)
You Juno haters need to calm down... Whats wrong with a basically unknown artist making a little money off of a fantastic movie?

No its's not that I don't want people to listen to those artists because of a movie. It's the scenekids that I'm not happy with, all they ****ing do is rip off the music scene and call it their own.

ps. If this doesn't make sense then it's probably because I've ben up 2 days straight because I can't get any sleep.
pss. You guessed it.....I'm super paranoid.

mr dave 05-06-2008 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 476856)
No its's not that I don't want people to listen to those artists because of a movie. It's the scenekids that I'm not happy with, all they ****ing do is rip off the music scene and call it their own.

and that's different from what your generation did to mine how?

Farfisa 05-06-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 476869)
and that's different from what your generation did to mine how?

Not my fault we're so lame :p:

Piss Me Off 05-06-2008 09:28 AM

I should really watch Juno, the soundtrack looks lovely.

mr dave 05-06-2008 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 476874)
Not my fault we're so lame :p:

it's all good, it's just how music grows and evolves (especially now that it's moved far beyond a solely auditory medium). people have been griping about scene kids ripping things off since the 70s.

Farfisa 05-06-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 476882)
it's all good, it's just how music grows and evolves (especially now that it's moved far beyond a solely auditory medium). people have been griping about scene kids ripping things off since the 70s.

I didn't know scene kids went back that far. Hell..I bet they didn't even know.

sleepy jack 05-06-2008 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 476856)
No its's not that I don't want people to listen to those artists because of a movie. It's the scenekids that I'm not happy with, all they ****ing do is rip off the music scene and call it their own.

ps. If this doesn't make sense then it's probably because I've ben up 2 days straight because I can't get any sleep.
pss. You guessed it.....I'm super paranoid.

You know what's also annoying? Kids who have no interested in anti-folk (most of who have never even heard the term anti-folk) who only know who the Moldy Peaches are because of Juno bitching about scene kids "stealing their scene" when they had no idea either. I mean for fucks sake you guys are bitching about this in the rock and metal forum it just shows you're no different.

boo boo 05-06-2008 01:27 PM

This is why I hate music "scenes" in general.

Because when bands from that scene become popular, or other bands become influenced by that scene, the scenesters bitch and whine about it.

CaptainSuck 05-06-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack fire drill (Post 476970)
You know what's also annoying? Kids who have no interested in anti-folk (most of who have never even heard the term anti-folk) who only know who the Moldy Peaches are because of Juno bitching about scene kids "stealing their scene" when they had no idea either. I mean for fucks sake you guys are bitching about this in the rock and metal forum it just shows you're no different.

Those are pretty bold assumptions. Are you implying our ineptitude because the hipster stereotype's so inclusive? Or because no one randomly namedropped a squadrant of lesser-hailed anti-folk bands or referenced Beck and Lach or some sh*t?
Plaguerism is plaguerism. I really liked Juno, to be honest, and I never meant to vilify it. Kimya Dawson didn't "sell out", and as I already said, I'm glad she's getting an assload of financial security.
"Flavour of the week" status sucks; this commercial's a great testament to that.

CaptainSuck 05-06-2008 06:42 PM

Oh. And yeah, I apologize for posting this here. I sorta didn't realize we had a Folk board.

sleepy jack 05-06-2008 06:45 PM

Well okay I understand plagiarism is plagiarism and am by no means defending it I guess this is just the statement that confuses me.

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Originally Posted by CaptainSuck (Post 476736)
Juno further cheapens the current music scene by introducing "novelty" acts to scene kids. Ugh.

Seems like bashing Juno to me and you also refer to the Moldy Peaches as a novelty act which weirds me out because I'd hardly consider Adam Green or Kimya Dawson to be cheap novelty musicians.

I'm still confused about you being a long time fan then placing it in the rock/metal forum.

Odyshape 03-05-2009 05:11 PM

WTF is wrong with people just because a band was in a movie and more people are into them they are no longer listenable ? That's stupid and chances are anyone who feels this way only listen to wierd obscure bands not because they actually LIKE them but because they think that it will make them a more interesting and give them chances to **** on people who don't know who they are talking about. Also your a **** for calling the moldy peaches a novelty act their a very good honest incredibly charming band, people like you annoy me more than straight edge kids and that is saying ALOT

jacklovezhimself 03-05-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 476978)
This is why I hate music "scenes" in general.

Because when bands from that scene become popular, or other bands become influenced by that scene, the scenesters bitch and whine about it.

which do you hate more hipsters or scenesters?

simplephysics 03-05-2009 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 476978)
This is why I hate music "scenes" in general.

Because when bands from that scene become popular, or other bands become influenced by that scene, the scenesters bitch and whine about it.


Post-Hipsters - hipsters who hate other hipsters for being hipster.

Janszoon 03-05-2009 06:25 PM

Pre-hipsters:

http://freepages.military.rootsweb.a...i/beatniks.jpg

jacklovezhimself 03-05-2009 06:30 PM

k because frankly, I think being scene and being a hipster are on completely different planets.
It's pretty easy to tell when someone is a scene kid.
But since "hipster" is a term meaning to be hip or cool or down or whatever with the current times there is room for a vast generalization that causes all the douche bag hipsters to give all the nice ones bad names.
When I say douche bag hipsters of course I mean the ones who constantly scowl at you and try to claim that Radiohead is better than the Beatles.
In my case, I may be a hipster but I listen to all kinds of music and appreciate it for what it is.

Mohammedan Angels 03-06-2009 03:46 PM

Mebbe if u guise diddnt get so territorial about other people'ss stuff and mindded your own bizniz per sum absurdist dogma, u'd actually b moar pretentious than u r being rite nao, and ppplz wuddn't giggle about u cuz u seem déclassé, wich is all u rly want neways.

swim 03-06-2009 03:51 PM

I don't see how anyone could get upset about kimya dawson getting popular because she still plays diy shows.

CaptainSuck 03-06-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 477175)
Seems like bashing Juno to me and you also refer to the Moldy Peaches as a novelty act which weirds me out because I'd hardly consider Adam Green or Kimya Dawson to be cheap novelty musicians.

I'm still confused about you being a long time fan then placing it in the rock/metal forum.

God you're dense. What do you think the quotations around "novelty" implied?
Also: Just because I'm a "long time fan" doesn't mean I'm familiar with this forum's layout. Did you actually read this thread?

jacklovezhimself 03-06-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohammedan Angels (Post 608769)
Mebbe if u guise diddnt get so territorial about other people'ss stuff and mindded your own bizniz per sum absurdist dogma, u'd actually b moar pretentious than u r being rite nao, and ppplz wuddn't giggle about u cuz u seem déclassé, wich is all u rly want neways.

maybe if you wrote in english I would take what your saying seriously.


retard...

sleepy jack 03-08-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainSuck (Post 608805)
God you're dense. What do you think the quotations around "novelty" implied?
Also: Just because I'm a "long time fan" doesn't mean I'm familiar with this forum's layout. Did you actually read this thread?

Quotations around novelty implies a stupidity and an ignorance as to what quotation marks are supposed to be used for.

Also, I don't understand how a lack of familiarity led you to believe the Moldy Peaches, an anti-folk band, belonged in a rock and metal forum.

Duke Of Slander 03-09-2009 02:16 AM

I see this discussion leading no where but may as well chime in.

I really don't see why you're so concerned with people liking a song in a movie. True, that when people lap it up and attempt to look down on you for musical tastes its annoying, but its really shallow of them. Hell I couldnt give a **** about people not liking my music taste. That like people trying to be elitist because I don't like bananas or I don't know what some obscure fruit it.

Bootom line: like what you like, if other people want to put their heads for far up their asses let em.

CaptainSuck 03-09-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepy jack (Post 610139)
Quotations around novelty implies a stupidity and an ignorance as to what quotation marks are supposed to be used for.

Also, I don't understand how a lack of familiarity led you to believe the Moldy Peaches, an anti-folk band, belonged in a rock and metal forum.

They're called apologetic quotation marks - they're used to emphasize the ironic nature of a word's inclusion, albeit they're not totally necessary, but I thought I would use them to ensure that people wouldn't think I was calling the Moldy Peaches a novelty act.

As for the second part, I already admitted it was a mistake/result of laziness. Who cares?


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