...good argument.

I didn't realize this was an argument. Having said that, there's nothing to argue. We Have The Facts And We're Voting Yes, Something About Airplanes, and Transatlanticism are so much better it's not even fair to them to argue otherwise.

see when you say things, you are supposed to support them. plans is death ca for cuties best album BECAUSE ben gibbard wrote some of the best melodies of his career against engaging and thought out instrumentation all while tackling mature themes that appeal to the soul on a deeper level than any of the crap on the albums that you inexplicably love.

there i something really special in plans, something that every other album really succeeds in capturing. the photo album got close but didnt quite make it.

Eh.

It's all opinion based. And our opinions obviously cannot co-exist. I enjoy the album but saying that the album contains Ben Gibbard's "best melodies" is completely false to me. I use to believe Plans was Death Cab's best album too but after serious listening to the band's early work, I quickly changed my mind. Everything about the pre-Plans Death Cab screams "better" to me. From the melodies, to the lyrics, to the overall feel and sound.

You can continue to enjoy Plans whilst I'll listen to the band's actual gems. ;)

Not trying to take sides but i would agree in the same way that their older stuff please ME more. Stress the ME. And i also listened to Plans first and then dug into their old stuff and for myself their older stuff has much more emotion and thats just simply more of the music i prefer.

of course our opinions can co-exist. you just give no credence or validity to any opinion other than your own. at least I have respect for Connair but you can take Something about Airplanes and shove it right up your ass :finger:

Narrow Stairs is my favorite album atm, but I've just begun really going through their discography, so I expect to have a different opinion in a couple weeks.

Love the band

Transatlanticism is a masterpiece.

Death Cab for Cutie is extremely,

extremely

overrated. Srsly, their best songs are the sort that get in your head once every six months, perhaps, when you're feeling real thoughtful and passive. Their songs are either killer (and by killer, I mean average killer, not anything particularly awesome) e.g. transatlanticism, sound of settling, song for summer, or filler -- by which I mean really, really standard.

They're not a bad band, not at all, just not worthy of all the praise they've attained, imho.

I agree. Plans is an absolutely beautiful album :)