Joy Division (house, punk, albums, fan, Atmosphere)

idancetothevu · 07-12-2008, 01:41 PM

great band.

fav song is probably between disorder & dead souls.

interzone is good too.

DJ Phoenix · 07-15-2008, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

Yes they were Punk If you hear their early stuff such as the Wasrsaw EP.And It's pretty tacky to associate them with the Goth movement because ever goth band has tried to rip them off and every goth band did it horribly. Plus goth music just sucks.

I have Warsaw, Closer, Unknown Pleasures and the rest, they weren't "punk" IMHO

. Well, maybe back then, as there wasn't really a proper category to put them in?

I disagree that Goth music "sucks"

. Lots of great bands, not everyone ripped off JD. Bauhaus, the Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Lords of the new church, March Violets, etc are all great too. Its the stuff past 92-ish that "sucked".

By the way: She's lost Control is a fantastic JD jam too.

Rainard Jalen · 07-16-2008, 01:21 AM

I agree that goth music per se does not suck. The Cure is the only band that needs to be mentioned as far as proof goes.

sweet_nothing · 07-16-2008, 07:19 AM

I always considered the Cure a pop band. Besides, I don't find them interesting at all.

Rainard Jalen · 07-16-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

I always considered the Cure a pop band. Besides, I don't find them interesting at all.

Goth music is any music associated with the subculture. There is no stipulation that it cannot include pop. The only essential thing is that the music reflects the mood and outlook of the movement.

The Cure are well known as goths:

You say you don't find them "interesting" at all - have you listened to their major albums? I don't see how they could be considered any less interesting particularly than a band like The Smiths.

Piss Me Off · 07-16-2008, 07:54 AM

For all the more poppy moments the Cure have had (like the singles) they've had darker moments. Just look at Pornography and Seventeen Seconds.

Seltzer · 07-16-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

I always considered the Cure a pop band. Besides, I don't find them interesting at all.

Have you heard Disintegration? Ethan got me into the Cure through that album.

sweet_nothing · 07-16-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen

You say you don't find them "interesting" at all - have you listened to their major albums? I don't see how they could be considered any less interesting particularly than a band like The Smiths.

I don't find the Smiths very interesting either. I have heard Pornography once at a friends house and their self titled when my brother liked them.

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Have you heard Disintegration? Ethan got me into the Cure through that album.

No, haven't heard that one, any good?

Seltzer · 07-16-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

I don't find the Smiths very interesting either. I have heard Pornography once at a friends house and their self titled when my brother liked them.

No, haven't heard that one, any good?

Yeah, Disintegration is great. I'd say it's their best, but then again I've only heard 3 of their studio albums.

Rainard Jalen · 07-16-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing

I don't find the Smiths very interesting either.

Oh, my bad. I had gathered that you were some gigantic Smiths/Morrissey fan from positive comments I'm sure I've seen posted by you around the boards.

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