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Old 04-09-2012, 05:34 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Closer is an amazing album. It is very depressing and it pretty much feels like you are listening to Ian's suicide note. But everything about it feels so genuinely emotional, it feels more open and honest than Unknown Pleasures, almost like you are staring directly into Ian's troubled soul.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:38 PM   #162 (permalink)
 
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Martin Hannett's production on the album is excellent. The sound he got on 'Heart and Soul' really makes the song feel desolate and hopeless, and Ian's voice sounds like it's coming from beyond the grave or from a ghost in the attic. It also shows the band leaving their punk-inspired roots behind and even bringing in more electronic elements, which would soon characterise New Order.
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Old 04-09-2012, 05:44 PM   #163 (permalink)
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Everything seemed very monotonous and uninspired.
I rarely felt that the music was progressing in any way, shape or form. I know that that is not always typical of the style of music, but I was just waiting for this record to come alive and it never did.
It also seemed almost too long, I gave it a full play through, and was tempted to just turn it off and listen to something else after about the fifth or sixth track.
I persevered, but there was nothing to ignite my interest.

Just an opinion mind you, but I just didn't like the album at all.
manky...if you revisit this album having read Zer0's observations, you'll find the album anything other than "uninspired".
Sometimes just listening to an album isn't enough and understanding is everything.
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manky...if you revisit this album having read Zer0's observations, you'll find the album anything other than "uninspired".
Sometimes just listening to an album isn't enough and understanding is everything.
Closer is one of the most inspiring albums I've ever listened to. There's too many people judging albums on only one listen these days, giving the album a few listens reveals a lot more depth and develops a connection. I think Closer is an album that a lot of people can find some sort of connection with.
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Old 04-10-2012, 04:07 AM   #165 (permalink)
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Have been listening to a lot of the Comsat Angels recently, they often sound like an upbeat Joy Division and have a great sense of melody.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:50 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Closer is one of the most inspiring albums I've ever listened to. There's too many people judging albums on only one listen these days, giving the album a few listens reveals a lot more depth and develops a connection. I think Closer is an album that a lot of people can find some sort of connection with.
Could not agree with you more... It's actually a pet peeve of mine.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:37 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Closer is an amazing album. It is very depressing and it pretty much feels like you are listening to Ian's suicide note. But everything about it feels so genuinely emotional, it feels more open and honest than Unknown Pleasures, almost like you are staring directly into Ian's troubled soul.
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Closer is one of the most inspiring albums I've ever listened to. There's too many people judging albums on only one listen these days, giving the album a few listens reveals a lot more depth and develops a connection. I think Closer is an album that a lot of people can find some sort of connection with.
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Excellent summary and defense for this masterpiece.
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Old 04-13-2012, 02:49 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Closer >

Need to listen to them both... TODAY!
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:09 AM   #169 (permalink)
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I didn't really enjoy closer. Just seemed too boring to me. I've given it a few spins and it's not to my liking. I got into Joy Division through their pop music so I guess I was never destined to like Closer.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:13 AM   #170 (permalink)
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i like both their albums but i disagree on the comments about Hannett's production

in some documentary i watched, Peter Hook said Hannett deliberately mixed both albums so that they would sound good on this set-up he had, which had metal speakers

so, i would have preferred somebody else's production
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