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ADELE 09-05-2008 02:28 PM

He played a concert with them and does tele work and he said Daman was the sole genius behind Blur.
Farmers have sidelines old jackhammer!
Not just moonshine either.

Piss Me Off 09-05-2008 02:30 PM

He had some solo thing with his girlfriend or something like that as well, they were terrible.

Edit: Or Betty Boo, sure.

jackhammer 09-05-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 514749)
He does occasionally

He did Marianne Faithfull and Sophie Ellis Bextor's albums , did a project with Betty Boo as well.

Yeah but not for a couple of years . Like I said early 00's. 2003 I think. Betty Boo still around is she? jeez.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-05-2008 02:33 PM

Ike Turner made an onstage appearence with Gorillaz.

I guess that makes him a full time member too.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:33 PM

Parklife was about the Americanisation of the UK with shopping malls and stuff all plastic whereas Oasis were about drugs and rock n roll.
I guess ideas that come from social feelings can evolve whereas songs about getting mashed last forever as they are but are harder to replicate.
am I right?

Minstrel 09-05-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 514744)
Fair enough minstrel.
You win this time.
But I shall return more powerful then before and reek havoc on your opinions.

Please do. The reason I sought out a good music forum is to have these types of discussions.

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You gotta understand that co written credits are for distribution of monies not for actual ideas.
Composition credits are whatever the band wants them to be. The Beatles didn't give Ringo credit for 99% of their songs, and Harrison is only given credit for the songs he wrote. All the rest are "Lennon/McCartney."

I didn't mention to composition credits as proof that you are wrong. I mentioned them because I don't see any evidence that Albarn was solely responsible. The composition credits could have been proof, if they listed only Albarn, but they don't. And Albarn being solely responsible doesn't match what I've read in the past.

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If you then construe that adding a bass line or drums makes you a co writer then you see why the Smiths broke up.
It does make you a co-writer. Songs aren't just lyrics and lead vocals. Without bass lines and rhythm sections, the songs wouldn't work.

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Albarn is the force behind these acts and if he wasn't there there wouldn't be a Blur or a Gorillaz
That is debateably true about Blur, but definitely not with Gorillaz. Dan the Automator, Kid Koala and Del the Funkee Homosapien have all been major parts of the song-writing for Gorillaz. Sure, Albarn is important but he's not the sole creative force.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 514757)
Ike Turner made an onstage appearence with Gorillaz.

I guess that makes him a full time member too.

Was he an influence or guitarist with Damon's former band aswell though my urban foe?

Did he say in interviews about blur and oasis that damon was a genius who wrote all their great songs?
I guess not.
If you were a lawyer you'd be defending hoodies in Lambeth and I'd be prosecuting music moguls like Simon Cowell.
Only kidding Urban.

Urban Hat€monger ? 09-05-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ADELE (Post 514760)
Was he an influence or guitarist with Damon's former band aswell though my urban foe?

Did he say in interviews about blur and oasis that damon was a genius who wrote all their great songs?
I guess not.
If you were a lawyer you'd be defending hoodies in Lambeth and I'd be prosecuting music moguls like Simon Cowell.
Only kidding Urban.

What's someones former band got to do with it?

Dan the Automator or Del the Funkee Homosapien were never in Blur , does that make them lesser members of Gorillaz because of it?

and you'd make a shit lawyer because your argument is full of holes your second point is just there for the sake of being there, it's totally meaningless in this context. I'm talking about band members not the songwriting.

ADELE 09-05-2008 02:46 PM

Band members can be session musicians like Ringo in the Beatles.
The only reason we know of certain bands is because of the songs.
There are bands in every pub up and down the world playing in pubs but Brian Wilson stayed at home and wrote the Beach Boys songs.
Would we be talking about the Beach Boys if one of the others was responsible for the songs?
I think not.
Anyway, I was crediting Albarn and you turn on me.
If I credit Oasis you turn on me.
Me gets the feeling you don't like me very much Urban.
Oasis are better but their latest single is a bit crap.

Farfisa 09-05-2008 08:17 PM

(getting back on topic)
I do like Blur alot more then Oasis because it's not overhyped shite.


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