The Smiths (lyrics, singer, pop, albums, quote)

GreenEyes67 · 04-02-2014, 02:07 PM

I really like The Smiths. I like Morrisey's voice and I think he's a great lyricist. Not too bad..

Josef K · 04-19-2014, 06:29 AM

The Smiths are one of my three or four favorite musical artists, but it annoys me when angsty teenagers talk about how much Morrissey's lyrics speak to them. Morrissey's lyrics shouldn't speak to you. They're a great band because they wrote great pop songs.

Zer0 · 04-19-2014, 07:10 AM

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Morrissey's lyrics shouldn't speak to you.

Why not?

Josef K · 04-19-2014, 10:18 AM

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Why not?

Because they're obnoxiously self-pitying. I mean, I like his lyrics (more with the Smiths than solo), because I think the sadder songs are quite funny, but that's more laughing at him than with him (unless his entire public persona is a lie). Not all his lyrics are like this and I apologize for the blanket statement.

Black Francis · 04-19-2014, 10:36 AM

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Because they're obnoxiously self-pitying. I mean, I like his lyrics (more with the Smiths than solo), because I think the sadder songs are quite funny, but that's more laughing at him than with him (unless his entire public persona is a lie). Not all his lyrics are like this and I apologize for the blanket statement.

And?

What, you want uplifting lyrics to make you feel better? NO! life is sh*t! especially to angsty teenagers that are all gloom & doom.

The thing you hate is what i most like about them.

Zer0 · 04-19-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Josef K

Because they're obnoxiously self-pitying. I mean, I like his lyrics (more with the Smiths than solo), because I think the sadder songs are quite funny, but that's more laughing at him than with him (unless his entire public persona is a lie). Not all his lyrics are like this and I apologize for the blanket statement.

But a lot of people (including myself) can find something to relate to in Morrissey's lyrics, even the self-pitying stuff. I don't see any reason why his lyrics shouldn't speak to us.

Black Francis · 04-19-2014, 11:20 AM

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But a lot of people (including myself) can find something to relate to in Morrissey's lyrics, even the self-pitying stuff. I don't see any reason why his lyrics shouldn't speak to us.

That how i feel too, i relate to flaws more than perfection.

I don't think it's a requisite to make songs with an optimistic message, not every band wants to talk about the same stuff and the smiths stand out among other bands precisely because of how whiny they are.

And i think it works for them and plus not every song has this same concept.

Josef K · 04-19-2014, 01:19 PM

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And?

What, you want uplifting lyrics to make you feel better? NO! life is sh*t! especially to angsty teenagers that are all gloom & doom.

The thing you hate is what i most like about them.

I wouldn't say I hate it - they might be my favorite band so there's nothing about them that I hate. Anyway, as an angsty teenager, the sad music I like is more stripped-down acoustic stuff.

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But a lot of people (including myself) can find something to relate to in Morrissey's lyrics, even the self-pitying stuff. I don't see any reason why his lyrics shouldn't speak to us.

Sorry, it's not a problem for other people, I'm just stating my view. I see how it came across initially though.

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That how i feel too, i relate to flaws more than perfection.

I don't think it's a requisite to make songs with an optimistic message, not every band wants to talk about the same stuff and the smiths stand out among other bands precisely because of how whiny they are.

And i think it works for them and plus not every song has this same concept.

I never said it had to be cheerful, I'm objecting to the way that they do sad songs lyrically.

Zer0 · 04-19-2014, 04:00 PM

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That how i feel too, i relate to flaws more than perfection.

This almost sums up perfectly how I feel when I'm listening to my favourite music. I doubt that The Smiths would have the same effect on me if Morrissey was singing about how perfect his life was.

04-02-2014, 02:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
GreenEyes67 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 26	I really like The Smiths. I like Morrisey's voice and I think he's a great lyricist. Not too bad..

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Josef K A Jew on a motorbike! Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 800	The Smiths are one of my three or four favorite musical artists, but it annoys me when angsty teenagers talk about how much Morrissey's lyrics speak to them. Morrissey's lyrics shouldn't speak to you. They're a great band because they wrote great pop songs.