dude... its a cliche... a cliche man... im not that stupid.... cant we all just rally together and murder the pop culture... i mean come on.... lol... and yes my hats off to atreyu for being successful... albeit more and more poppy every single day that they wake up.... and you cant REALLY compare norma jean to dillenger.... A because dillenger will always rock my socks so sufficiently as to never be replaced and B because dillenger is the epitomy of grincore... norma jean... well, is in slow kid... esol... cookie making Grindcore 101...

yeah atreyu. i agree.

k, atreyu shall never be named in this thread again.