To help some understand Screamo (electronic, hardcore, jazz, metal)

anticipation · 11-15-2007, 05:02 PM

can anyone tell me what band Horror City came from?

they sound like Sailboats kinda.

alliteration · 11-15-2007, 05:33 PM

members of Horror City were in Sailboats.

NoiseNotMusic · 11-17-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by enemyat_thesix

lol for some reason when I read JFFB I thought Charles Bronson

some bands are connected in my mind for reasons unknown to myself

charles bronson kicked ass.

swim · 11-18-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zealious

The modern term "screamo" as we know it, is first and most closely aligned to the likes of Saetia.
Maybe term was aligned with them but the sound wasn't revolutionized by them. Magnified, yes. I mean Closure was on the same label as Saetia and relesed s/t about 2 years before A Retrospective and is much more representative of current screamo

In the late 90's, many bands from the east coast began pulling heavy influence from these early 90's Gravity Records bands, but with some modern flair.
More mid-90s than late. I'd say '96 is when the first screamo recordings came about

the early Modern screamo almost always refers to a group of east coast bands featuring college level kids looking to provoke thought and release their own aggression through the power of music. These bands typically stretched from Massachusetts to Virginia and rarely further west than Philadelphia (with a few exceptions, such as Georgia's Portrait).
With many more exceptions than Portrait -Griver, Eagle Bravo, Inkwell. Southeast hardcore is underrated

Although the term is first related to the likes of Saetia, I personally believe that there were lesser known predecessors.
I'm aware of my previous comments with this statement. Just sharing what I've learned.

For instance, a pre-You&I band known as Instil first started playing shows around 95/96. Around 1997-98, bands such as Saetia, You&I, Usurp Synapse, Jerome's Dream, and Orchid began popping up playing in basements and other tiny establishments to only a few people. I've heard the late 90's screamo criticized as "artsy" and "pretentious," but I think naysayers don't quite understand the intended point of this movement. Normally, when a hardcore/punk kid begins college, he/she starts to understand him/herself better. They will grow bored of the "posicore" crap of the 80's and move to an entirely new genre of music and thought that isn't nearly as socially aware. Rather than abandon their roots in hardcore or punk music, the modern screamo kids wanted to expand on a tired sound and keep themselves socially, politically, and emotionally aware.

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SheIsLegend · 12-02-2007, 08:52 AM

Okay, I may be young, but hear me out. Please.

Screamo is a musical genre that developed out of emo, more specifically hardcore emo, in the early 1990s. Characteristic of the genre are the screaming vocals (not growling). Other than that, it is fairly hard to classify (particularly since the rule about screaming vocals is bent fairly often). It is sometimes also mistakenly referred to as "emo violence", which is closely related (although bands in both genres borrow ideas from each other). The term has been co-opted by some mainstream publications to describe bands such as Underoath, Hawthorne Heights, Thrice, Thursday, and Taking Back Sunday. Screamo bands play a thrashy brand of emo often featuring harmonizing guitar riffing and anguished vocal screams. It is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore, however what basis this has in fact is questionable. Many screamo bands play a slower melodic breakdown in songs. Lyrically, screamo topics are often times introspective, although it is not uncommon to see a screamo band with political lyrics. Most screamo songs use imagery and metaphors to speak of lost love or failed friendships.

In California in the early 1990s, Gravity Records from San Diego released many defining records of this style. Significant Emo bands from this time include Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. In the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. The labels Gern Blandsten Records and Troubleman Records released many of the influential records from that region and era. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Contemporary screamo bands include Circle Takes the Square and Saetia. There was an explosion of bands, some who influenced this were: Indian Summer, Evergreen, Current, Shotmaker, Portraits of Past, and Julia. These bands eventually became what is known as Emo, a style which intensified the dramatic aspects of vocal performances in order to achieve a cathartic breakthrough with the audience. Their music backgrounds differ, Julia and Evergreen both soft and deep produced some of the richest Emo sounds, while Shotmaker railed off hardcore punk and found their niches in the brutal honesty of the human voice. Done well, the result was powerful emotional release that often left Emo bands and their audiences crying or screaming or very quiet at the end of performances. While effective, such open displays of emotion made many traditional hardcore fans uncomfortable, and caused much friction between the two camps. In recent years, the internet has helped spread word of screamo through websites and through online distributions. Many fans of the genre have turned to eBay to expand their collections of rare and out-of-print records. This leads to very high prices on records that often cost a meager $10 or less when they were first released. Some members of bands who have broken up have expressed displeasure in these high prices and urge fans not to buy them, or buy a posthumously released discography instead. In recent years, the term "screamo" has been misused very commonly to describe emo, post-punk, alternative rock, metalcore, or hardcore bands with emo influences.

The Dave · 12-02-2007, 03:34 PM

Yay, Wiki again.

xcassiusx · 12-02-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SheIsLegend

Okay, I may be young, but hear me out. Please.

Screamo is a musical genre that developed out of emo, more specifically hardcore emo, in the early 1990s. Characteristic of the genre are the screaming vocals (not growling). Other than that, it is fairly hard to classify (particularly since the rule about screaming vocals is bent fairly often). It is sometimes also mistakenly referred to as "emo violence", which is closely related (although bands in both genres borrow ideas from each other). The term has been co-opted by some mainstream publications to describe bands such as Underoath, Hawthorne Heights, Thrice, Thursday, and Taking Back Sunday. Screamo bands play a thrashy brand of emo often featuring harmonizing guitar riffing and anguished vocal screams. It is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore, however what basis this has in fact is questionable. Many screamo bands play a slower melodic breakdown in songs. Lyrically, screamo topics are often times introspective, although it is not uncommon to see a screamo band with political lyrics. Most screamo songs use imagery and metaphors to speak of lost love or failed friendships.

In California in the early 1990s, Gravity Records from San Diego released many defining records of this style. Significant Emo bands from this time include Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. In the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. The labels Gern Blandsten Records and Troubleman Records released many of the influential records from that region and era. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Contemporary screamo bands include Circle Takes the Square and Saetia. There was an explosion of bands, some who influenced this were: Indian Summer, Evergreen, Current, Shotmaker, Portraits of Past, and Julia. These bands eventually became what is known as Emo, a style which intensified the dramatic aspects of vocal performances in order to achieve a cathartic breakthrough with the audience. Their music backgrounds differ, Julia and Evergreen both soft and deep produced some of the richest Emo sounds, while Shotmaker railed off hardcore punk and found their niches in the brutal honesty of the human voice. Done well, the result was powerful emotional release that often left Emo bands and their audiences crying or screaming or very quiet at the end of performances. While effective, such open displays of emotion made many traditional hardcore fans uncomfortable, and caused much friction between the two camps. In recent years, the internet has helped spread word of screamo through websites and through online distributions. Many fans of the genre have turned to eBay to expand their collections of rare and out-of-print records. This leads to very high prices on records that often cost a meager $10 or less when they were first released. Some members of bands who have broken up have expressed displeasure in these high prices and urge fans not to buy them, or buy a posthumously released discography instead. In recent years, the term "screamo" has been misused very commonly to describe emo, post-punk, alternative rock, metalcore, or hardcore bands with emo influences.

young at what? copy and pasting?

screamo is the least reliable music genre source on Wikipedia, considering every week some nerd tries to show off their "coolness" by listing as many obscure/unknown bands as possible and giving a ****ty examples and definitions of screamo.

Besides that, I'd say wiki is a good source for genre info.

anticipation · 12-02-2007, 07:20 PM

"it is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore,"

what the fuck?

xcassiusx · 12-02-2007, 07:30 PM

lolololololol

i could never say screamo has "brutality" or is "brutal"

PS: is it is just me or do you find saying "contemprary screamo bands include Saetia and Circle Takes The Square"
considering CTTS sounds like nobody else, and Saetia has been dead for years, and there's been a way different wave of screamo bands the past 5-6 years?

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 12-05-2007, 11:59 PM

r u jokin skremo is fukken brutal

12-02-2007, 08:52 AM	#75 (permalink)
SheIsLegend Groupie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burke, VA Posts: 4	Eh, This is weird. Okay, I may be young, but hear me out. Please. Screamo is a musical genre that developed out of emo, more specifically hardcore emo, in the early 1990s. Characteristic of the genre are the screaming vocals (not growling). Other than that, it is fairly hard to classify (particularly since the rule about screaming vocals is bent fairly often). It is sometimes also mistakenly referred to as "emo violence", which is closely related (although bands in both genres borrow ideas from each other). The term has been co-opted by some mainstream publications to describe bands such as Underoath, Hawthorne Heights, Thrice, Thursday, and Taking Back Sunday. Screamo bands play a thrashy brand of emo often featuring harmonizing guitar riffing and anguished vocal screams. It is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore, however what basis this has in fact is questionable. Many screamo bands play a slower melodic breakdown in songs. Lyrically, screamo topics are often times introspective, although it is not uncommon to see a screamo band with political lyrics. Most screamo songs use imagery and metaphors to speak of lost love or failed friendships. In California in the early 1990s, Gravity Records from San Diego released many defining records of this style. Significant Emo bands from this time include Heroin, Angel Hair, Antioch Arrow, Universal Order of Armageddon, Swing Kids, and Mohinder. In the New York/New Jersey era, bands such as Native Nod, Merel, 1.6 Band, Rye Coalition and Rorschach were feeling the same impulse. The labels Gern Blandsten Records and Troubleman Records released many of the influential records from that region and era. Many of these bands were involved with the ABC No Rio club scene in New York, itself a response to the violence and stagnation in the scene and with the bands that played at CBGBs, the only other small venue for hardcore in New York at the time. Contemporary screamo bands include Circle Takes the Square and Saetia. There was an explosion of bands, some who influenced this were: Indian Summer, Evergreen, Current, Shotmaker, Portraits of Past, and Julia. These bands eventually became what is known as Emo, a style which intensified the dramatic aspects of vocal performances in order to achieve a cathartic breakthrough with the audience. Their music backgrounds differ, Julia and Evergreen both soft and deep produced some of the richest Emo sounds, while Shotmaker railed off hardcore punk and found their niches in the brutal honesty of the human voice. Done well, the result was powerful emotional release that often left Emo bands and their audiences crying or screaming or very quiet at the end of performances. While effective, such open displays of emotion made many traditional hardcore fans uncomfortable, and caused much friction between the two camps. In recent years, the internet has helped spread word of screamo through websites and through online distributions. Many fans of the genre have turned to eBay to expand their collections of rare and out-of-print records. This leads to very high prices on records that often cost a meager $10 or less when they were first released. Some members of bands who have broken up have expressed displeasure in these high prices and urge fans not to buy them, or buy a posthumously released discography instead. In recent years, the term "screamo" has been misused very commonly to describe emo, post-punk, alternative rock, metalcore, or hardcore bands with emo influences.

11-15-2007, 05:02 PM	#71 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	can anyone tell me what band Horror City came from? they sound like Sailboats kinda.

11-15-2007, 05:33 PM	#72 (permalink)
alliteration Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 352	members of Horror City were in Sailboats.

12-02-2007, 03:34 PM	#76 (permalink)
The Dave Me and The Major Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,830	Yay, Wiki again.

12-02-2007, 07:20 PM	#78 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	"it is sometimes perceived that because of its sheer speed and brutality, screamo bands often border on grindcore," what the fuck?

12-02-2007, 07:30 PM	#79 (permalink)
xcassiusx Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 295	lolololololol i could never say screamo has "brutality" or is "brutal" PS: is it is just me or do you find saying "contemprary screamo bands include Saetia and Circle Takes The Square" considering CTTS sounds like nobody else, and Saetia has been dead for years, and there's been a way different wave of screamo bands the past 5-6 years?

12-05-2007, 11:59 PM	#80 (permalink)
~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	r u jokin skremo is fukken brutal