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A_Perfect_Sonnet 12-08-2006 09:51 PM

Except melodic hardcore is stuff like Rise Against and Strike Anywhere, who sound nothing like a screamo band in any sense.

kevinpunx 12-09-2006 02:12 AM

yeah dude your right

~nutshell~ 12-11-2006 08:43 AM

interesting.....


I think you've left out the hardcore bands that were the first "emo" bands..such as Piebald in it's early days, and Shift, these are both east coast bands form the mid to late 90's...they were essentially hardcore bands, hardcore meaning hardcore punk, though the feel of hardcore at that time was very specific and not what one generally refers to as "punk"...

harcore bands like Gorrilla Biscuits I think influenced early emo too- they were not emo per se but they expressed in their lyrics their emotions and what was bothering them about the scene...and some songs were just funny.

ok, that's my 2 cents, just rambling on there....

A_Perfect_Sonnet 12-11-2006 08:53 PM

I fail to see how a hardcore band like GB could influence early emo bands when they released their first major 7" four years after emo's conception.

xcult_classicx 12-12-2006 12:53 AM

i think what he meant by early emo is emo before the 90s, i dunno, i think that's what he said

A_Perfect_Sonnet 12-12-2006 09:09 AM

Piebald didn't release their first album until 94 or 95.

The Dave 12-12-2006 09:27 AM

Sonnet>nutshell

~nutshell~ 12-14-2006 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet (Post 310933)
I fail to see how a hardcore band like GB could influence early emo bands when they released their first major 7" four years after emo's conception.

ok. i'm not saying that they ARE an emo band, certainly not...and I don't know when you think emo's "conception" was, I was just thinking that they were one of the more "melodic" hardcore bands, if you will, with lots of catchy tunes and sing along parts and perhaps they had some influence on the emerging emo bands...that's all. I could be wrong... And you can't tell me that Piebald didn't influence any bands after them! I'm sure there were earlier bands, so maybe I shouldn't have sad that they were one of the first , though....

A_Perfect_Sonnet 12-14-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emo Education Thread
Emo is a derivative of the early 1980s hardcore punk movement. The earliest bands tried to deviate from the well-established and more violence-shifting hardcore sound, first evidenced in releases like Husker Du’s “Zen Arcade” in 1984, and later self-titled releases from Rites of Spring and Embrace (fronted by future Fugazi vocalist Guy Picciotto and ex-Minor Threat vocalist Ian Mackaye respectively). This upcoming breed of music was characterized by more intense and passionate vocal delivery, while retaining a more tranquilized hardcore punk quality. The summer of 1985 (termed the “Revolution Summer”) marked the emergence of many new bands like Nation of Ulysses, Moss Icon, Gray Matter, Shudder To Think, Ignition, and Dag Nasty. These bands tended to have a less aggressive, more melodic hardcore sound with more high-to-low sound transitions. Some of today’s well accepted emo qualities appeared here, with the introduction of more intricate pop-oriented guitar melodies and high pitch screaming. Some of these bands have been labeled “post-hardcore”, suggesting a derivation from the hardcore movement of the 1980s.

I don't know what you think "emo" is, because you wouldn't be saying catchy tunes and sing-along parts are encompassing of the genre. And yes, emo did exist before The Get Up Kids.

~nutshell~ 12-16-2006 10:42 AM

um, I know what emo is.....I'm not saying that those characteristics are encompassing of the genre- not at all.

The Get Up Kids???, you think that's what i think early emo sounds like?, um no, wrong again.


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