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phoenixflames 04-24-2005 07:44 PM

A Very Large Misconception...
 
I see alot of posts in this forum where people say that Emo is a genre for kids who "slit their wrists and act depressed" and I just had a couple ideas on this that I would like to put forth (some more serious than others :) ).

1. If all "emo kids" slit their wrists, wouldn't emo music die because all the people who liked it (or were in bands that played it) were dead?

2. If people took the time to listen to the music they are so stereotypicly criticizing, they might realize that emo lyrics aren't all about depressed (or other mentally ill people) committing suicide.

3. I think you will find that there are many people in society who are depressed, and amazingly, they don't all listen to emo... (Wow, what a revelation...)

4. On a final point, that emo (and many other forms of music as well) is a good way for "depressed kids" to express their feelings and keep from slitting their wrists in the first place.

This is just my opinion, and I'm sure that more can be added...

.angie. 04-24-2005 08:05 PM

now i know that more than just me thinks that people are creating steryotypes and its rediculous. come on, i dont slit my wrists.

Trauma 04-24-2005 08:28 PM

Good point guy.
But keep it inside, everyone already knows this anyway.
It's like other stupid stereotypes about stupid **** like Japanese People, Old People, Christians, and People With Mullets.

phoenixflames 04-24-2005 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Snickers
But keep it inside, everyone already knows this anyway.
It's like other stupid stereotypes about stupid **** like Japanese People, Old People, Christians, and People With Mullets.

Well, apparently not everyone who comes to this forum does, because otherwise people wouldn't keep believing it and posting to say its true. I do, however, agree that its a stupid stereotype (and that its just one of millions out there)...

.angie. 04-24-2005 08:40 PM

... did anyone else realize that the links on the top of the page are about suicide.

.angie. 04-24-2005 08:41 PM

well, they were anyway. they changed now.

pastor of muppets 04-24-2005 09:36 PM

lol mine are bout asia tsunami

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-25-2005 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenixflames
Well, apparently not everyone who comes to this forum does, because otherwise people wouldn't keep believing it and posting to say its true. I do, however, agree that its a stupid stereotype (and that its just one of millions out there)...

Wherever you go, theres going to be people holding sterotypes against you. There are people on this forum who join and post once about how "emo kids are g@y you all need to stop slitting your wrists you stupid f@gs." But its not as if this forum is the only place youll hear that! You hear it everywhere. Theres nothin you can do about people like that, its just a fact of life that they're always going to be around.

phoenixflames 04-25-2005 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
Wherever you go, theres going to be people holding sterotypes against you. There are people on this forum who join and post once about how "emo kids are g@y you all need to stop slitting your wrists you stupid f@gs." But its not as if this forum is the only place youll hear that! You hear it everywhere. Theres nothin you can do about people like that, its just a fact of life that they're always going to be around.

I agree with what your saying. Its just sad that most people have to go through life putting others down to make themselves feel better. In this day and age, you think we could be more "tolerant" (boy, is that word thrown around alot) of each other. Saying other people are stupid does in no way, make you any better than everyone else. But I'm sure everyone already knows this...

:soapbox:

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-25-2005 12:05 PM

Youre right, saying other people are stupid doesnt make you any better, but they dont know that. It makes them feel better about themselves. I dont understand them, but Ive been around them for years now, and Ive accepted that fact that they hate me and that they're "better than me" or whatever. Now just if everyone else would just accept the fact that theres no changing some people, we'll be fine.

IMATOOL 04-25-2005 12:29 PM

So to be clear what is emo? What kinds of bands are in this genre? Just curious. :)

ArtistInTheAmbulance 04-25-2005 12:40 PM

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=4359

phoenixflames 05-03-2005 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by IMATOOL
So to be clear what is emo? What kinds of bands are in this genre? Just curious. :)

Wow, this just got off topic...

pastor of muppets 05-04-2005 05:11 AM

(bunkers in and waits for ****storm to erupt)

phoenixflames 05-09-2005 12:01 PM

Crickets...

allyz 05-09-2005 01:20 PM

we all say we hate stereotypes but by merely clasing ourselves as "emo" most peops follow stereotypes....annoyinly we dunt mean 2 follow we jst fit in2 those catorgories without doin anyfin 2 delibratly get us ther but meh who reallly cares? not me! we are hu we r n if peps cnt accept us 4 hu we r then they rnt really worth botherin with!
allyz xXxXx

ArtistInTheAmbulance 05-09-2005 01:27 PM

Of course anyone who classes themselves as emo is following a stereotype. And by calling yourself emo youre following a stereotype deliberately.

And whatever that last sentence was meant to mean, Im sorry I dont think there were any vowels in there so I didnt quite understand... But Im sure you meant well.

phoenixflames 05-09-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by allyz
we all say we hate stereotypes but by merely clasing ourselves as "emo" most peops follow stereotypes....annoyinly we dunt mean 2 follow we jst fit in2 those catorgories without doin anyfin 2 delibratly get us ther but meh who reallly cares? not me! we are hu we r n if peps cnt accept us 4 hu we r then they rnt really worth botherin with!
allyz xXxXx


I don't classify myself as 'emo', 'punk', or anything else for that matter. I suppose I would call myself a human, but some might disagree ;) It seems to me that if you classify yourself as something other than that, you are limiting yourself as an individual. I don't want to have to dress or act a certain way, because I want to be who I am, not follow the guidelines of a stereotype. I prefer to be free thinking and act how I want to act.


If people want to call themselves by a label, they are free to do so. But when they volunteraily do that, they then suffer from all the stereotypes that are associated with that label (wether they are right or wrong). I choose to live without the label, and hope that people judge me by my actions, not by how I look...

IamAlejo 05-09-2005 03:53 PM

The biggest misconception.

Emo is a type of music, not a type of person.

phoenixflames 05-09-2005 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
The biggest misconception.

Emo is a type of music, not a type of person.

True, but there are those that call themselves emo. Quite a few actually. Whether or not its right for them to exist, they do... :)

IamAlejo 05-09-2005 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixflames
True, but there are those that call themselves emo. Quite a few actually. Whether or not its right for them to exist, they do... :)

Those who do have no idea what the music is about.

Trauma 05-09-2005 04:58 PM

^
Most who call themselves "emo" listen to post-emo...
If I went up to someone who said they were emo and said Heroin, they would say, "what???" NOT ohhh I love that band.

Urban Hat€monger ? 05-10-2005 04:25 PM

I think the biggest misconception is that people really give a ****

phoenixflames 05-31-2005 09:03 AM

^ Or that people know what they are talking about...

PerFeCTioNThrUSileNCe 05-31-2005 12:47 PM

I'd Start saving green and before breathing
I have your voice on tape in a southern accent screaming at me
I was only one and we weren’t prepared for one
(I have your voice on tape in a southern accent screaming at me)
So we started saving green before breathing

Know things look lovely to you
Holding back, now and forever sweetheart
know things look lovely
longing for midnight and I’ll deny
You were walking so peculiar like you had something to hide (still so deadly) [x2]
Sweet penance for this sound-that it might explode in her hands

Bordered in a brown pigmentation
Where the element lines cut short, turned in and stopped
I've been watching rose giving in and that’s when I started savoring the sound
I was watching rose give in to it severing the ties between mother and son [x2]

Know things look lovely to you
Holding back, now and forever sweetheart
know things look lovely
longing for midnight and I’ll deny
You were walking so peculiar like you had something to hide (still so deadly) [x2]
Sweet penance for this sound-that it might explode in her hand (it might explode) [x2]

I once saw many places, I promised the world and a dozen roses. [x2]

these are the lyrics to translating the name by saosin.

now honestly do these look like they are about someone slitting their wrists? i dont think so.

holdyoualways 06-22-2005 08:25 PM

it really bugs me that people have that kind of assumption about this or any other type of music genre for that matter. i mean its funny to an extent if people wanna poke fun at it but eventually it gets annoying.

phoenixflames 06-22-2005 08:30 PM

^ Just like any stereotype, not just music realated.

holdyoualways 06-22-2005 09:45 PM

yeah exactly. its the same all around.

EDGE 06-30-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenixflames
1. If all "emo kids" slit their wrists, wouldn't emo music die because all the people who liked it (or were in bands that played it) were dead?

This is a great point.

daytonasurf 06-30-2005 02:09 PM

Why cant people just listen to what ever the **** they want without people constantly b1tching about genres.

Pansy! 06-30-2005 02:59 PM

:clap: Amen.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 06-30-2005 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pansy!
:clap: Amen.

AMEN BRUDDA

IamAlejo 06-30-2005 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daytonasurf
Why cant people just listen to what ever the **** they want without people constantly b1tching about genres.

That just makes way too much sense.

Pansy! 06-30-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAlejo
That just makes way too much sense.

True Dat.


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