I like MCR and hawthorne heights but i dont really classify them as being emo! they are more or less their own genre!

They aren't good enough to hold their own genre.

Hawthorne heights in it's own genre......their is no way you can say that their not screamemo very band screamemo at that their scream isn't even real

I think their screaming sounds good.

it's fake they put his voice through a voice box and he whispers into the microphone. have you seen them live?

No, I haven't seen them live, and I don't listen to them that much really. But I do like their screaming. I don't think I would really call it fake though. Do you call it fake when an electric guitar is put thru a stomp box and is distorted? I know its not quite the same thing, but just something to think about...

for some reason this sounds like something you made up. i have seen them live and i didnt notice anything of the sort. where did you learn this?

It's true. In my opinion and many others' opinions, Hawthorne Heights is a horrible band. Just listen to Ohio is for Lovers and you'll understand. End of debate

Not really... You assume everyone has that opinion, and not everyone does.

^ I agree not everyone thinks hawthorne heights is a horrible band.

I don't....... I like hawthorne heights.......

Ah I just couldn't help myself. :)
No, actually I believe it's called a guitar effect lol.
Whispering into a voice box I believe is called whispering! :yikes:
Not screaming, omg!
OMG no, now they aren't as hardxcore!!!

Well, for one, I never claimed they were "hardxcore". If they do indeed whisper into a voice box (which has yet to be proven by anyone), then its a cool effect. That doesn't make it a fake anything. I don't believe that they whisper to do that stuff. I think its real screaming until I'm shown otherwise.

regardless, its ***...

Oh yes Mr. Frost, we all know you are the greatest and have the best opinion on everything...

I never said you claimed they were "hardxcore" either.
I'm just debating the instrumental/vocal part.
And yes, either way, it's ****, lol, it doesn't matter if he's whispering or screaming.

Yes, but it was implied that I thought they were, trying to make me sound like some lame groupie. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time on this... It doesn't really matter. I'll like what I like, you'll dislike and trash what you dislike and trash, and we all end up in the same place we were before. Sickining...

He didn't try to make you sound like some lame groupie because you already did that yourself. You are a slave to pop-rock bands; you cannot deny it because you stated your favorite bands. Yes, they might be a good band, (Not saying that they are) but you have to understand that most of us here are trying to break away from the average onslaught of cliche garbage fed to us by some record companies. If you want to talk about how great Hawthorne Heights is, then go ahead with your friends. However, this emo forum is more than a year old, and its seen its fair share of Hawthorne Heights appreciation. Try posting a new innovative band that many can discover.
Some people wonder why poser elitists like Jamisonparker can go about the emo forum dissing it. He's right to assume we all are emo posers judging by some of the members that post here...

Where the heck did I say they were my "favorite band" or even one of my "favorite bands"? Where did I say that they were so great? And how can you judge that I'm a "slave" to pop-rock bands? You have no clue what kind of music I like or even who I am... Quit acting like you are so much better than me or anyone else. Its not wrong to like any type or style of music. If you want to listen to obsucre bands thats cool. If you want to listen to mainstream music thats cool too. I happen to listen to both in equal amounts. I actually do like some songs by bands that are big. That is not a crime. I don't cut down on you for any band you listen to, or don't listen to. Thats your right as an individual. So don't cut me down by saying I'm a slave and that I listen to garbage. You don't have any right to do so...

good charlotte good charlotte good charlotte good charlotte good charlotte............... i think i made myself clear.

agreed....although im not sure that good charlotte can even be considered emo.....i think pop would fit the description better.

hate to break it to you but it's true. a kid i go to school with works in the studio that they recorded in.

i actually like hawthorne heights, taking back sunday,and MCR
and i dont think that MCR are even remotly emo nor try to be emo
but i gotta say that simple plan is the worst poser band...they are ****

i really dont like fall out boy.......their lyrics r wierd

Emo
 

Okay, so I don't know quite why you all have the hates for Hawthorne. I don't mind them. Sure, they are not up to par, but I don't think badly of them. I got their CD off a guy at school, and I can't say that I love it, but there are a couple good tunes on there. I have to agree with the one who said they liked the Get Up Kids. I'm sad that I'm gonna miss their TO show. Last tour ever! Campfire Kansas was my favorite. Anyways, in terms of worst emo band, don't say anything, but Nirvana. Now, I bet I'll get a bunch of whiny replies saying Nirvana isn't emo, but that's exactly what I'm saying. They are world class emo posers. Listen to ****ing Kurt Cobain whine on and on in the ****tiest voice I have heard. His lyrics are the worst! He is the biggest loser for trying to be deep and failing miserably. And the comment about the cutting of the wrists in relation to Emo. Why do people always make that connection? Suicide is the most self centered, ridiculous thing ever. People who kill themselves are losers. They have no reason to stab themselves. What? Are they trying to make us all feel sorry for them or something? Are they going through too much "pain" that they can't take it? Poor babies! I feel so damn sorry for them. What losers. Elliott Smith wrecked his scene.
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How many replies will I get to this?

This person is an idiot
 

Who in god's name does this person think they are insulting The Shins. The Shins are far from Emo. The Shins are beyond incredible. They are so good. I hate people who only know them from Garden State too. That movie was really well done, kudos to Zach Braff, but that really made the Shins too popular. Now idiots like "yourcodenameis: Milo" think they know all about the Shins, and feel the need to insult them. Get a life. And to all the people on this forum insulting Hawthorne Heights, get out there and create your own music. Let's see how you do. You *******s sit here and insult bands all day, but I don't see any of you out there on the front lines. You all suck. Pearl Jam sucks. I am only insulting bands because I started playing drums when I was four, and I believe (not to be too ****y) that I know a thing or two about music. I play guitar too, and I am in two bands. I think I am partially qualified to make some jugdements.
Somethingisrunningonempty

I agree, i quite like Dashboard Confessional...

hmm well the problem becomes with bands like hawthorne heights, taking back sunday etc is that it gets old really fast. partly because other bands like to copy their style from the guitar licks to how the singer pronouces their vowels. im not saying its their fault but its hard to survive that for long unless you are really good.

^ All those bands seem to be doing pretty good, but only time will tell for sure.

There is no classification of EMO people. EMO stands for what? Lets all say it together, EMOTIONAL. poison the well is emotional, fall out boy is emotional, etc etc etc. However, Fall Out Boy can Be classified as POP while PTW can be classified as Hardcore. Hawthorne Heights=screamo. I only stay with screamo because it is not quite hardcore, bit not poppy like FOB. PTW is EMOTIONALHardcore or emocore.

That's my standards.

Gee, that's neat.

http://www.fourfa.com

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This is cool too buddy, check that out!

The purpose of (nearly all) music is to convey emotion, so by your definition, nearly all the songs ever recorded have been emo. And by the way, emo is short for emotional hardcore.

emo is NOT short for emotional hardcore. No way. And not every song is emotionally charged, what about rage against the machine? Sure theyre emotional, but the theme is politically/socially charged.

So if emo if short for emotional hardcore, new found glory simple plan and good charlotte must be pretty hardcore huh?

Emo IS short for emotional hardcore, it came from the contraction of 'emocore' with originated in the late 80's with band like Rites Of Spring. Also good job at contradicting yourself kid, you even said it yourself that a band as un-emo as RATM are emotional.

Also why the hell are you bringing Pop-punk/Power-pop bands into this for?

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somebody doesnt have a clue.

Yay! Another thread that has degraded to "This is what emo is", "No, its not, this is what emo is". So much fun...

Did you really think a thread with "emo" in the title wouldnt?

^ LOL! Considering titles without emo do the same thing, one with with emo in the title is 73.9% more likely to turn into this kind of arguement. Its been proven by science. :)

Haha science never lies... I love the faith we have in our emo forum... Tis a shame realleh. Im gonna get flamed in a minute for not adding anything positive to this forum... LETS ADD SOMETHING ON TOPIC!


Ermm.. Fall Out Boy? Im having trouble trying to figure out what is meant by "emo poseur bands", whether we're talking about bands posing as emo, or bands that other people think are emo.


Ah well, who cares.

I've seen other forums go through the whole "emo" arguement and eventually it worked out and most people there knew what emo was. Also, it tended to get people to find out about music and made the whole board a bit more knowledgable and got rid of the idiots.

I guess you could always ask for the name of the forum changed, if it bothers you that much, I wouldn't know what you'd change it to though.