Emo, timeless? (punk, beatles, The Smiths, goth, quote)

Zealious · 02-18-2005, 09:55 PM

Many people on this forum don't just listen to emo, they branch out and find great music. As long as there are people searching for good music, then emo will be alive.

Btw, I'm listening to the Rites of Spring CD which is an emo band that's 20 years old.

Oh yeah, and the Beatles suck. Beatles have no amount of creativity. If you noticed they're just another idolized pop band. They did not pioneer anything new, they were simply making music associated at that time, which sounded like most bands in that age. I'd rather listen to dead emo music

*the1ulove2hate* · 02-19-2005, 05:25 AM

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Oh yeah, and the Beatles suck. Beatles have no amount of creativity. If you noticed they're just another idolized pop band. They did not pioneer anything new, they were simply making music associated at that time, which sounded like most bands in that age. I'd rather listen to dead emo music

Well i actually like the beatles, probably due to the fact that i was brought up on them. And while i do agree that they became too commercialised and were idolised for being "the greatest rock band ever" when really they just made pop music that they knew would sell, i'd like to point out that john lennon, in my opinion is one of the greatest muscians of all time. His songs are a great example of emo music. He's written some of the best emo lyrics ever..

Sneer · 02-19-2005, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Zealious

Oh yeah, and the Beatles suck. Beatles have no amount of creativity. If you noticed they're just another idolized pop band. They did not pioneer anything new, they were simply making music associated at that time, which sounded like most bands in that age. I'd rather listen to dead emo music

firstly, perhaps you should add "in my opinion" after saying they suck because really, a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck. yes, they were over-commercialised in the beginning, and yes, they were slightly overrated but isnt that like most emo now? and their psychedelic was not mere pop, it was highly creative, whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish where all frontmen are the same and all songs are similiar. at least the beatles actually changed and developed their sound.

*the1ulove2hate* · 02-19-2005, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

firstly, perhaps you should add "in my opinion" after saying they suck because really, a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck. yes, they were over-commercialised in the beginning, and yes, they were slightly overrated but isnt that like most emo now? and their psychedelic was not mere pop, it was highly creative, whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish where all frontmen are the same and all songs are similiar. at least the beatles actually changed and developed their sound.

Zealious · 02-19-2005, 08:48 AM

You were just comparing the beatles band to the whole emo genre...That doesn't make any sense

You generalized a genre that has over a thousand bands

"a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck"
-Usher has as number of number 1 sellers in America, so he must not suck. This also applies to Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, N Sync, etc... They all must be really good since they have many number one selling albums.

"they were slightly overrated"
-Yeah, just a little bit. That's why 2 out of 3 girls would scream their names at concerts and idolize them. Sound familiar?

"whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish"
-Didn't you just say "perhaps you should add "in my opinion"". It makes you seem as a hypocrite losing all credibility.

And in conclusion:
Why would I have to say "in my opinion" when I'm saying it. Of course its my opinion. This is an online forum where people express opinions... If I said in my opinion I would be merely restating the obvious.

I'm done

Sneer · 02-19-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zealious

You were just comparing the beatles band to the whole emo genre...That doesn't make any sense

You generalized a genre that has over a thousand bands

"a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck"
-Usher has as number of number 1 sellers in America, so he must not suck. This also applies to Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, N Sync, etc... They all must be really good since they have many number one selling albums.

"they were slightly overrated"
-Yeah, just a little bit. That's why 2 out of 3 girls would scream their names at concerts and idolize them. Sound familiar?

"whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish"
-Didn't you just say "perhaps you should add "in my opinion"". It makes you seem as a hypocrite losing all credibility.

And in conclusion:
Why would I have to say "in my opinion" when I'm saying it. Of course its my opinion. This is an online forum where people express opinions... If I said in my opinion I would be merely restating the obvious.

I'm done

right, notice i said "to me" before i said emo is generic rubbish?.
secondly, 2 out of 3 girls screaming suggests that they merely be fans of the band, nothing wrong with that is there.
no, usher isnt crap, hes just not my particular taste, and britney spears, Nsync and co havent had 27 number ones both sides of the atlantic have they? or the biggest selling album in their country ever.
and the reason im comparing the emo genre to one band is to me(<-notice that?) emo is all the same.

Catharsis · 02-19-2005, 11:39 AM

The beatles don't suck, listen to revolver

Porphyria Plan · 02-21-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu

somehow i cant see our generation saying to their grandchildren "oh i remember when i first saw brand new"

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Originally Posted by Zealious

I'd rather listen to dead emo music

Not quite sure what the honor is to you two but I just found sig quotes.

This_isnt_highschool · 02-21-2005, 02:03 PM

just to bring you back to the beatles argument...personally i think theyre great, not just for their music but just for the significance (aware i cant spell that) factor, i mean we wouldnt have half the bands we do now if it werent for them, as with The Smiths, i LOVE them, but i also love BrandNew and similar bands who strongly take their influence from them...so you cant just say that they suck because i can guarentee that at least one of the bands you like has taken alot of influence from the beatles, so rather than saying they suck you should be repsecting them for bringing you the music you like

This_isnt_highschool · 02-21-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Porphyria Plan

Not quite sure what the honor is to you two but I just found sig quotes.

oh and also to you....i dont see why you felt the need to highlight that because you love music because it can relate to you or you like the actual music riffs or whatever...just becasue you're not gonna tell your grandchildren about them doesnt make them crap or useless...i bet atleast 99.99% of the bands around now wont be around in 20 years..slag all of them off then..it says on your profile you like "versions of emo"...you honestly think that you're gonna be telling your grandkids about the bands you like?

02-21-2005, 02:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
This_isnt_highschool Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bedford, England..oh how exotic Posts: 56	just to bring you back to the beatles argument...personally i think theyre great, not just for their music but just for the significance (aware i cant spell that) factor, i mean we wouldnt have half the bands we do now if it werent for them, as with The Smiths, i LOVE them, but i also love BrandNew and similar bands who strongly take their influence from them...so you cant just say that they suck because i can guarentee that at least one of the bands you like has taken alot of influence from the beatles, so rather than saying they suck you should be repsecting them for bringing you the music you like __________________ Fight Off Your Demons Write Songs In Your Sleep Sing In Your Sleep Fight Off Your Demons

02-18-2005, 09:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Zealious Skeptic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 375	Many people on this forum don't just listen to emo, they branch out and find great music. As long as there are people searching for good music, then emo will be alive. Btw, I'm listening to the Rites of Spring CD which is an emo band that's 20 years old. Oh yeah, and the Beatles suck. Beatles have no amount of creativity. If you noticed they're just another idolized pop band. They did not pioneer anything new, they were simply making music associated at that time, which sounded like most bands in that age. I'd rather listen to dead emo music

02-19-2005, 08:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
Zealious Skeptic Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 375	You were just comparing the beatles band to the whole emo genre...That doesn't make any sense You generalized a genre that has over a thousand bands "a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck" -Usher has as number of number 1 sellers in America, so he must not suck. This also applies to Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, N Sync, etc... They all must be really good since they have many number one selling albums. "they were slightly overrated" -Yeah, just a little bit. That's why 2 out of 3 girls would scream their names at concerts and idolize them. Sound familiar? "whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish" -Didn't you just say "perhaps you should add "in my opinion"". It makes you seem as a hypocrite losing all credibility. And in conclusion: Why would I have to say "in my opinion" when I'm saying it. Of course its my opinion. This is an online forum where people express opinions... If I said in my opinion I would be merely restating the obvious. I'm done

02-19-2005, 11:39 AM	#17 (permalink)
Catharsis Groupie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 5	The beatles don't suck, listen to revolver