You Don't Know Hardcore (jazz, punk, genre, fan, quote)

GravitySlips · 04-11-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Minor Threat has to be one of the most overrated bands ever. The only reason people like them is because they're an early hardcore punk band and by listening that boring three chord, 45 second half assed political shit they get punk cred.

I can truly assure you that that is not the only reason people like Minor Threat.

**Janszoon** · 04-11-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred

Minor Threat has to be one of the most overrated bands ever.

They are one of the key bands in the development of early American hardcore and people regard them as such. I'd say that makes them accurately rated, not overrated. They were a great, energetic band and you can't exactly fault them for being so influential that their style of playing became commonplace over the ensuing decades.

swim · 04-11-2009, 10:40 PM

Embrace was a million times better than Minor Threats. They had just as big if not bigger role in the development of Hardcore.

GravitySlips · 04-11-2009, 10:47 PM

Embrace are good and all, but there's no competition.

Minor Threat is Ian Mackaye's best pre-Fugazi band by a considerable amount.

Bane of your existence · 04-11-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by swim

Embrace was a million times better than Minor Threats. They had just as big if not bigger role in the development of Hardcore.

Haha, what?
If you had said Teen Idles, maybe, but you'd still be wrong.

Also, Embrace sucked too.

The Evens is where it's at.

bardonodude · 04-11-2009, 11:03 PM

I liked minor threat before I listened to any of this diy stuff. but I agree with alfred to a certain extent. People name drop them just to have some cred. same thing with *cringe* black flag. I hated when I would be on campus at my university and kids my age would still be talking about how good damaged was. Dude, there is a music community out there that is alive and way more hardcore than that band could ever be. I understand that they were a necessary step, but come on, dont act like they're hotter than the **** that is exiting your tight little ******* because I hate to break it to you but it isnt.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 04-11-2009, 11:49 PM

i cant stand to finish an embrace song... they bore the hell out of me.
minor threat is catchy, but get repetitive
and my war >>>>>>>>>>>> damaged

Thrice · 04-11-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo

You all know that genre arguments make you come off like a pretentious twat don't you?

ding ding ding...escpecially when they are sub-genres of sub-genres that 12 year old kids think up..."Thats historycore...not sciencecore."

**Janszoon** · 04-11-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice

Thats historycore...

No it's not, it's socialstudiescore.

bardonodude · 04-12-2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips

Damaged is good though. God knows it's better than half the stuff that's mentioned in this forum (but yes My War is better than Damaged, even though it's not really hardcore, albeit it is better than 99% of hardcore records).

you're allowed to like bands without delving into scenes that sprang up because of them, you know. College kids with no real interest in hardcore can like Damaged, big f'uckin deal dude. I'd take Black Flag or Minor Threat over anything Orchid ever did any time.

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips

you're allowed to like bands without delving into scenes that sprang up because of them, you know.

lol i know, that was kind of cool, to be into them, I did like a lot of punk but not many other bands from that time frame. I have no idea how I found out about them ( oh wait yeah, I do, sublime talked about them a lot). but nonetheless, I dont know, the point I was trying to make is that people talk about black flag like they were the only good hardcore band, and they were clueless to all of the other good bands out there. I don't really like black flag, minor threat or orchid that much. There are way better bands that just were'nt as big as they were imo.

04-11-2009, 10:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
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04-11-2009, 10:47 PM	#24 (permalink)
GravitySlips Music Addict Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,578	Embrace are good and all, but there's no competition. Minor Threat is Ian Mackaye's best pre-Fugazi band by a considerable amount.

04-11-2009, 11:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
bardonodude Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Posts: 1,367	I liked minor threat before I listened to any of this diy stuff. but I agree with alfred to a certain extent. People name drop them just to have some cred. same thing with cringe black flag. I hated when I would be on campus at my university and kids my age would still be talking about how good damaged was. Dude, there is a music community out there that is alive and way more hardcore than that band could ever be. I understand that they were a necessary step, but come on, dont act like they're hotter than the ** that is exiting your tight little ***** because I hate to break it to you but it isnt.

04-11-2009, 11:49 PM	#27 (permalink)
~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VAN Posts: 2,530	i cant stand to finish an embrace song... they bore the hell out of me. minor threat is catchy, but get repetitive and my war >>>>>>>>>>>> damaged