the problem with kids today (indie, punk, rock, genre)

jibber · 12-06-2004, 08:35 PM

you know, I really dont see why the title of the thread is "the problem with kids TODAY". In every generation people have followed trends, its nothing at all new, so why is it such a big deal. Everyone goes through a stage in their life where they want to fit in, and feel the need to belong to a group, and everyone goes through a stage where they rebel against the "group image", and a lot of times this simply leads them to a different trend to follow. Its not a new phenomenon, and it's not hurting anyone, so I've never understood why people make such a big deal over it and act as though the desire to fit in is such a negative thing, when really, it's just human nature.

Oi_To_The_World · 12-06-2004, 09:06 PM

^ i agree, i think conforming to something is almost inevitable at all stages of yer life. people seem fixated with labels and category, but whatever, you do what you gotta do, you do what you wanna do.

tiaw · 12-14-2004, 11:37 AM

cannon fodder is right. ok maybe not about the bit of them killing themselves. and being depressed, well it's not sad, it's a mental state of mind and an illness so no one should make fun of it.. but apart from that he's right. . .
punks have their uniform,
emo kinds have their uniform
so do rockers!

they all do and furthermore it doesnt bother me i just think its really stupid because their limiting themselves and just copying other people rather than just being themselves.. emo is seen as cool nowadays and thats just bloody stupid because everyone who wants to be cool is now emo strangely enough?? coicindence - i think not.

tiaw · 12-14-2004, 11:45 AM

oh and by the way, yeah, everyone is guilty of conforming to some extent, but some are a lot more guilty of it than others!

hopefornothing · 12-14-2004, 11:48 AM

fanny packs that’s the next trend just wait and see

BiteToBreakSkin · 12-14-2004, 05:09 PM

spearmint's comment right in the beginning is exactly what i would have said in this thread... e-x-a-c-t-l-y

Sweet Jane · 12-17-2004, 04:14 PM

First, what is being a goth? It tends to involve listening to gothic music, and a certain dress sense and often make-up. Emo is different. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't emo short for emotional? What the hell is wrong with being emotional? If having feelings and enjoying heartfelt lyrics is conforming, then sign me up with the rest of the sheep. I will not apologise for having emotions, wether 99% of the population do too, or not. Most of us do, its not about comformity at all. Its about life.

jibber · 12-18-2004, 05:18 PM

^ the term "emo" in the sort of connotation that we're talking about in this thread has come to be defined as somone who is always sad about things, wears black tight clothing, dyes their hair black, tends to let very small insignificant things really get to them etc... It's absolutely rediculous I know, and all these "descriptors" I've put in my post are from things I've read on this board from people describing the so called "emo kids".

David Frost · 12-18-2004, 05:22 PM

ill sum it all up for you.

Goth is Joy Division
Emo is Indian Summer

these are music genres. not lifestyles or traits to define yourself by. sorry if that crushes everyones personalities on this board, but at least now you can rebuild.

jibber · 12-18-2004, 05:28 PM

^ yeah that basically sums it up. unfortunately for every person who realizes that music genres aren't synonymous with a certain type of lifestyle, there's be twenty kids talking about how "punk", "emo", "goth" they are.

12-06-2004, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,544	you know, I really dont see why the title of the thread is "the problem with kids TODAY". In every generation people have followed trends, its nothing at all new, so why is it such a big deal. Everyone goes through a stage in their life where they want to fit in, and feel the need to belong to a group, and everyone goes through a stage where they rebel against the "group image", and a lot of times this simply leads them to a different trend to follow. Its not a new phenomenon, and it's not hurting anyone, so I've never understood why people make such a big deal over it and act as though the desire to fit in is such a negative thing, when really, it's just human nature. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

12-06-2004, 09:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
Oi_To_The_World Unpatriot Act Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: planet of the rapes Posts: 389	^ i agree, i think conforming to something is almost inevitable at all stages of yer life. people seem fixated with labels and category, but whatever, you do what you gotta do, you do what you wanna do. __________________ what is the mind? no matter. what is matter? never mind.

12-14-2004, 11:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
hopefornothing Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 145	fanny packs that’s the next trend just wait and see __________________ It's illegal for frogs to croak after 11 PM in Memphis, Tennessee. It's against the law to sing off key in North Carolina.

12-14-2004, 05:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
BiteToBreakSkin Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: toronto, ontario, can-a-duh. Posts: 44	spearmint's comment right in the beginning is exactly what i would have said in this thread... e-x-a-c-t-l-y __________________ "...and you're surrounded by the lives of those who found something to hold so bringing everybody down is all you know."-six ways 'til sunday - rise against - http://www.astaticlullaby.com/mediaplayer/

12-18-2004, 05:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,544	^ the term "emo" in the sort of connotation that we're talking about in this thread has come to be defined as somone who is always sad about things, wears black tight clothing, dyes their hair black, tends to let very small insignificant things really get to them etc... It's absolutely rediculous I know, and all these "descriptors" I've put in my post are from things I've read on this board from people describing the so called "emo kids". __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

12-14-2004, 11:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
tiaw Groupie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 16	cannon fodder is right. ok maybe not about the bit of them killing themselves. and being depressed, well it's not sad, it's a mental state of mind and an illness so no one should make fun of it.. but apart from that he's right. . . punks have their uniform, emo kinds have their uniform so do rockers! they all do and furthermore it doesnt bother me i just think its really stupid because their limiting themselves and just copying other people rather than just being themselves.. emo is seen as cool nowadays and thats just bloody stupid because everyone who wants to be cool is now emo strangely enough?? coicindence - i think not.

12-14-2004, 11:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
tiaw Groupie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 16	oh and by the way, yeah, everyone is guilty of conforming to some extent, but some are a lot more guilty of it than others!

12-17-2004, 04:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sweet Jane Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 546	First, what is being a goth? It tends to involve listening to gothic music, and a certain dress sense and often make-up. Emo is different. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't emo short for emotional? What the hell is wrong with being emotional? If having feelings and enjoying heartfelt lyrics is conforming, then sign me up with the rest of the sheep. I will not apologise for having emotions, wether 99% of the population do too, or not. Most of us do, its not about comformity at all. Its about life.

12-18-2004, 05:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,544	^ yeah that basically sums it up. unfortunately for every person who realizes that music genres aren't synonymous with a certain type of lifestyle, there's be twenty kids talking about how "punk", "emo", "goth" they are. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER