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Roygbiv 11-19-2008 11:53 AM

Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
 
I'm thinking of purchasing this on CD or on LP but I just don't know.
I used to love "New Noise" which is on the album, and apparently it is an essential, but I don't know how I feel about hardcore/punk just yet.

So, I'm leaving it to the wonderful, knowledgeable individuals in MusicBanter to educate me.

Is it worth purchasing? Is there a better Refused album? Is there anything I should know before buying it? Do share.

MURDER JUNKIE 11-19-2008 11:58 AM

Get it........................NOW!!!

The Refused would be ashamed to know what the shape of punk to come really was

Piss Me Off 11-19-2008 01:03 PM

I ain't going to lie to you man, you need that album.

Roygbiv 11-20-2008 09:14 AM

But, what is it about it that makes it a classic? An essential?

Piss Me Off 11-20-2008 09:18 AM

For me it never gets boring really. It's never constant noise, there's electro fills and the whole quiet loud quiet ethic going on, so when the distortion is there it really hits home. Awesome lyrics as well.
I'm not massive on hardcore either but i'd happily put is as one of the best albums i've heard.

Roygbiv 11-20-2008 09:27 AM

Yeah, that's actually a big deal for me. I get bored of hardcore and goth metal albums because they don't often offer variety between tracks, but that elector fill sounds interesting. Also, I heard there are little jazzy moments too.

MURDER JUNKIE 11-20-2008 09:38 AM

This album has it all, it moves from beautiful at times to bombastic fury. I think what may make it a classic is the use of technology which up until that point was taboo in punk rock. It stands high in the top five as one of the most innovative punk rock albums ever and certainly the only one of the modern era. It takes a lot of balls to introduce an album like this

Piss Me Off 11-20-2008 09:43 AM

Put simply it's an album not everyone might fancy but everyone really should hear.

Roygbiv 11-20-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE (Post 548849)
This album has it all, it moves from beautiful at times to bombastic fury. I think what may make it a classic is the use of technology which up until that point was taboo in punk rock. It stands high in the top five as one of the most innovative punk rock albums ever and certainly the only one of the modern era. It takes a lot of balls to introduce an album like this

...And call it Punk. I'm sure many thought they were pretentious when they came out? I mean, here's this band claiming to be instigating a new musical movement, in a genre they didn't seem to be singing about. So far I'm convinced. I'll pick up the CD copy next paycheque : )

MURDER JUNKIE 11-20-2008 09:51 AM

That's what is strange, it was acclaimed by punks everywhere as soon as it came out. There is really something for everyone here

Roygbiv 11-20-2008 09:58 AM

Why haven't I heard so much more about this album?

mr dave 11-20-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roygbiv (Post 548853)
I mean, here's this band claiming to be instigating a new musical movement, in a genre they didn't seem to be singing about.

they were pulling an ornette coleman. 'the shape of jazz to come' came out in 1959 and introduced the world to the idea of free jazz while turning off all the purists. the guys in refused simply took from those ideas and reapplied them to a new style and generation.

both albums are worth checking out.

Alfred 11-20-2008 08:15 PM

I haven't heard this album either, and I really have been meaning to check out Refused.

Roygbiv 11-20-2008 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 549057)
they were pulling an ornette coleman. 'the shape of jazz to come' came out in 1959 and introduced the world to the idea of free jazz while turning off all the purists. the guys in refused simply took from those ideas and reapplied them to a new style and generation.

both albums are worth checking out.

That's some great trivia. So I'm guessing the apparently jazzy elements of Shape of Punk to Come are no coincidence.

sugarandspite 12-10-2008 04:30 PM

Nation Of Ulysses.

The Refused I'm assuming weren't so much aware of Ornette Coleman as they were N.O.U. Who released an album using similar a jazzy/hardcore styling, with mock revolutionary content.

Meph1986 12-10-2008 06:11 PM

I have the album in my computer, I can upload it if you like.

Alfred 06-08-2010 02:04 PM

Anyone been listening to the reissue that came out today? I've tried a few of the live tracks. They're sloppy but in a good way, and Tannhauser is absolutely phenomenal. Apparently the album has been remastered too?

Violent & Funky 06-08-2010 03:18 PM

Weird. I have that album blasting in the other room (not the reissue)...

kim_nokiamusic 06-10-2010 03:19 AM

I don't know how I feel about the reissue. It's hardly very "Refused" is it.

SeymourGreenspoon 06-16-2010 08:15 PM

wow dont you just listen to the other songs on youtube or simply download it, then purchase it if you like it

RVCA 04-06-2011 12:32 AM

"The Deadly Rhythm"

http://i.imgur.com/s1HVe.png

Husky McDump 04-06-2011 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 1031601)
"The Deadly Rhythm"

http://i.imgur.com/s1HVe.png

lol

P A N 04-06-2011 08:17 PM

solid greatness. get it.

domman123 04-07-2011 09:25 PM

no doubt man BUY THAT ****!!!!


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