Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet

I was told I was retarded and that I should "get the hell out of the group pussy", even though the kid admitted to only reading the last line and basing his entire rebuttle off of it.

Originally Posted by can_i_say

Ian Mackaye did more for me than Jesus ever did.

Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet

One the one hand, you had some true hardcore fans that considered themselves punkers through and through (bands like Angel Hair), who brought the emo influence into their (now less punk, more jun juns) hardcore music. These bands used screamed vocal approached and heavier riffs along with varied dynamics to create the genre know as screamo. A vast majority of bands of current bands that still stick to these emo roots would now be considered screamo. A few names to check out would be - La Quiete, Funeral Diner, Welcome the Plague Year, Amanda Woodward, Ampere, Pg.99, With Horses In Her Eyes, and Circle Takes the Square. Now back to the 90s. Another groups of bands decided to take what Ian MacKay had done, and combine it with the emotive hardcore to create a softer, more melodic sound. This created what was essentially the indie-emo genre. Some bands that originally made this transition were Cap'n Jazz (Tim Kinsella later started The Promise Ring), Sunny Day Real Estate, and The Get-Up Kids. *Note: My knowledge of indie-emo really starts dropping off at this point. Several mid-90s bands (and musicians) that gained fame in early 2000s were strongly influenced by this genre spinoff (Jimmy Eat World, John Nolan of Taking Back Sunday, Max Bemis of Say Anything... although they are more recent), drawing influence to create a more alt-rock (inherently more popular in the late 90s with bands like Third Eye Blind and Eve 6) inspired sound, while still drawing some influence from the indie/post-emo bands that came before them.