Best live act I've seen this year.

I didn't realise there were 5 screamo albums

The Crash of Rhinos album is in my top 5 releases of this year so far, very fucking good indeed.

I'm so confused as to what this is supposed to mean.

Screamo

1.Circle Takes The Square - As The Roots Undo (Possibly one of the best albums of all time)
2. Envy - Dead Sinking Story
3. Pg.99 - Document 8
4. City of Caterpillar - Self Titled
5. Orchid - Dance tonight, Revolution Tomorrow.

^Anybody looking to get into the genre, you can't go wrong with those 5.

I don't understand Circle Takes the Square; take the song Houdini Logic. It starts off well enough, nice single notes, drumming is appropriate, and I start thinking to myself, maybe this band is worthwhile.

And then the band decides to get random, and my frustration increases.

What don't you understand? They're Screamo, experimenting with dynamics and tempo shifts is a core element of the genre.

See, that's another thing I'm having difficulty with; is there truly a substantive difference between screamo and metalcore? This seems analogous to people claiming there's a difference between speed and thrash metal....

Eh, I would hardly call what they're doing experimenting; but even to not debate that point, I ****ing hate it.

The most obvious difference, probably, is that there is very little that is "metal" about screamo. It's a more dynamic, often melancholy form of hardcore punk. Circle Takes The Square are a bit of an exception, though, I would say.

Screamo:


Metalcore:

Botch are Mathcore, which differs from Metalcore in that there is a greater emphasis on speed, technicality and complex time signatures. There's a progressive element to it.

Metalcore is bands such as Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying and Bullet For My Valentine. Breakdowns, harmonised riffs, double-bass pedals and drop-tuning are key elements. Screamo differs in that it's a dissonant confluence of Emo and Hardcore Punk, characterised by melodic guitar-interplay, frantic tempo and dynamic shifts, and an intense angst/melancholy. Metal and its conventions aren't typically an influence.

Of course, this is purely my take on it all. Genre's a murky business.

In its purest form, metalcore is still more similar to Botch than it is to the KSE, AILD, BFMV type bands which take a lot of influence from melodic death metal and even power metal. I chose to use Botch as my example, because they better illustrate the blend of hardcore and metal. But yes, if we're going to be specific, they are a mathcore band... which usually is just a more progressive and technical form of metalcore.

This is hard. I'll base it on the ones I think i've enjoyed the most in the past rather than the ones I want to listen to today.

Amanda Woodward - La décadence de la décadence
Saetia - A retrospective
Envy - All the Footprints You've Ever Left and the Fear Expecting Ahead
Mihai Edrisch - Un jour sans lendemain
Daïtro - Laisser vivre les squelettes

Hello, since it seems that you guys don't mind me bumping since my
American Football thread was closed, here I am.

Hm...

Saetia- A Retrospective

You and I- Discography (a great mixture of clean and unclean vocals)

Optimus Prime- Self-Titled

Book of Dead Names- The Story Unfolds

The Spirit of Versailles- Discography

Funeral Diner- The Difference of Potential

And, 'As the Roots Undo' by Circle Takes the Square gets a mention, of course. This list isn't very likely to remain unchanged for long, ha ha.

I'm about to go through and listen to every one of these albums lol

^You're about to have a great time.

You and I are great, they really don't get enough props as far as I'm concerned. The discography release is really good.

^Holy crap, yes, they are so amazing. They have a really unique dual vocal style. :D

I like Envy and I've listened to a bit of their stuff, I just haven't been able to tell any of the songs apart, to be honest. I guess it'll just take some more listens.

Off Minor - The Heat Death of the Universe
Gospel - The Moon Is a Dead World
City of Caterpillar
Kidcrash - Jokes
Hmm... A Retrospective?

I still need to educate myself some more with the genre, I haven't really heard that many screamo albums.

And before anyone asks, yes, I've heard As The Roots Undo.

EDIT: Sh*t... I didn't notice how old this thread was :P

These are my favourites, and I do not consider influence:

Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
The Get Up Kids - Red Letter Day & Woodson
The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good
I Hate Myself - 10 Songs
Jimmy Eat World - Static Prevails

Dawn Treader - Deconstructing the Coffin/Lone Islands
La Quiete - La fine non è la fine
Bells on Trike - S/T
Daniel Striped Tiger - Capital Cities
L'antietam - Family

top 6?

my top 1: nine eleven - city of quartz

typical but...

ctts - as the roots undo
city of caterpillar
orchid - chaos or gatefold cant decide
funeral diner - ...is dead
raein/daitro split epic!

honorable mentions:

lome prieta- last city
portraits of past
combatwoundedveteran - i know a girl
saetia - retrospective
kidcrash - jokes
saddest landscape - everything

Daitro - Laisser Vivre Les Squelettes
Jeromes Dream - Completed Discography
The Saddest Landscape - All Is Apologized For, All is Forgiven
The Pine - Self Titled
Rites of Spring - End on End