Emo Class (alternative, blues, hardcore, metal, pop)

littleknowitall · 03-09-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LucienAD

can i steal this???

~~bungalow~~ · 03-09-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

You seem to have missed my point by a mile.
Like I said i`m not saying what is & isn`t emo , i`m just saying that nobody has so far said anything about what bands contributed into emo becoming mainstream and you are just dodging the issue to pick holes on points i`m not even trying to make.
I`m not argueing with you here i`m asking you because so far i`ve not seen you or anybody else answer the question , if the bands he mentioned had no impact into the mainsteam success of emo then who did?

Ok, I know that this was made a few pages back, and I havent finished reading this whole thread yet, but I would like to say: I see where you are coming from Urban, my only problem with your logic is the fact that, though you say emo is "mainstream" I do not belive that it is. It is just a misconception that all of these bands that are "mainstream" are emo, when in fact they are pop punk.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-09-2006, 03:32 PM

But where did that misconception come from?

There must be something in it to link it to emo in the first place.Where else does the stereotypical emo kid come from?

Just as I said earlier most people have a problem calling Green Day a punk band , but their success got people into punk. Who`s to say that people listening to emo didn`t get into it in the same way.

I can remember people on this forum singing the praises of bands like Hawthorne Heights & Fall Out Boy just a few months ago and now those same people dismiss them as being crap.So you have to admit there is truth in what i`m saying.

sleepy jack · 03-09-2006, 03:35 PM

Uh, Good Charlotte and Simple Plan got me into punk, are they punk? No. Are they being called punk? Yes. I looked more into the genre and started finding out about the circle jerks, crass and all them. There is truth in what you're saying they are gateway bands, but that doesn't make them emo.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-09-2006, 03:37 PM

I never said they were emo.

All i`m saying is I don`t think their contribution to it is being recognised

Electric Ocean · 03-09-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

But where did that misconception come from?

There must be something in it to link it to emo in the first place.Where else does the stereotypical emo kid come from?

This is basically how I believe the term emo has got so confused and how "emo" has become popular.

Edit: Sorry for the size and, yeah, I don't agree with the threadstarter.

P.P.S: It's late and I've probably left out loads of important bits and scenes but oh well...

sleepy jack · 03-09-2006, 07:43 PM

You left out some parts, but the whole message and stuff got across fine. I agree with what you're saying on there, and hopefully Don will see how "emo" isn't actual emo.

Mama Booze · 03-09-2006, 08:39 PM

Don.
I love you.
That was heavenly.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-09-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Ocean

This is basically how I believe the term emo has got so confused and how "emo" has become popular.

Thats fine but 2 things....

You`re using the assumption people either listen to one or the other

Both started off from the same point

sleepy jack · 03-09-2006, 09:26 PM

Just because they both started off from the same point, doesn't mean they're the same genre. Taking Back Sunday sounds nothing like Circle Takes The Square, I wouldn't group them into the same genre at all. Also bands can be influenced by something. He also said "with no real hardcore attachements" the genre being emotionally driven hardcore, has to have hardcore in it.

03-09-2006, 03:32 PM	#43 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	But where did that misconception come from? There must be something in it to link it to emo in the first place.Where else does the stereotypical emo kid come from? Just as I said earlier most people have a problem calling Green Day a punk band , but their success got people into punk. Who`s to say that people listening to emo didn`t get into it in the same way. I can remember people on this forum singing the praises of bands like Hawthorne Heights & Fall Out Boy just a few months ago and now those same people dismiss them as being crap.So you have to admit there is truth in what i`m saying. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-09-2006, 03:37 PM	#45 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I never said they were emo. All i`m saying is I don`t think their contribution to it is being recognised __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-09-2006, 08:39 PM	#48 (permalink)
Mama Booze Here's lookin at you, kid Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The White Hotel Posts: 366	Don. I love you. That was heavenly.