:D can i steal this???

Ok, I know that this was made a few pages back, and I havent finished reading this whole thread yet, but I would like to say: I see where you are coming from Urban, my only problem with your logic is the fact that, though you say emo is "mainstream" I do not belive that it is. It is just a misconception that all of these bands that are "mainstream" are emo, when in fact they are pop punk.

But where did that misconception come from?

There must be something in it to link it to emo in the first place.Where else does the stereotypical emo kid come from?

Just as I said earlier most people have a problem calling Green Day a punk band , but their success got people into punk. Who`s to say that people listening to emo didn`t get into it in the same way.

I can remember people on this forum singing the praises of bands like Hawthorne Heights & Fall Out Boy just a few months ago and now those same people dismiss them as being crap.So you have to admit there is truth in what i`m saying.

Uh, Good Charlotte and Simple Plan got me into punk, are they punk? No. Are they being called punk? Yes. I looked more into the genre and started finding out about the circle jerks, crass and all them. There is truth in what you're saying they are gateway bands, but that doesn't make them emo.

I never said they were emo.

All i`m saying is I don`t think their contribution to it is being recognised

Emo Map
 

This is basically how I believe the term emo has got so confused and how "emo" has become popular.
http://i2.tinypic.com/r1eted.jpg

Edit: Sorry for the size and, yeah, I don't agree with the threadstarter.

P.P.S: It's late and I've probably left out loads of important bits and scenes but oh well...

You left out some parts, but the whole message and stuff got across fine. I agree with what you're saying on there, and hopefully Don will see how "emo" isn't actual emo.

Don.
I love you.
That was heavenly.
:)

Thats fine but 2 things....

You`re using the assumption people either listen to one or the other

Both started off from the same point

Just because they both started off from the same point, doesn't mean they're the same genre. Taking Back Sunday sounds nothing like Circle Takes The Square, I wouldn't group them into the same genre at all. Also bands can be influenced by something. He also said "with no real hardcore attachements" the genre being emotionally driven hardcore, has to have hardcore in it.