Yeah somehow I don't think I'd ask for your opinion, but whatever... I just meant that I think of The Used as post hardcore, which is what hardcore has evolved into along with some of the bands own sounds.

well i checked out the used , and they consider them selves as punk/rock.

Good for them.

well i read the first couple posts, and someone tried saying avenged sevenfold is better then from autumn to ashes,.. i like avenged sevenfold but not that much, fata is amazing, a lot of avenged sevenfold's songs sound the same, and as far as them sounding like a "hardcorer" thrice i can see where you're coming from on that, but thrice's songs are all so different

Underoath

um other way around emo is derived from hxc it all goes back to minor threat and rites of spring but eh

he was useing sarcasam and good charlotte is no where near punk or hxc try pop

a little outsate for my replie but i agree fro autumn to ashes is nto hxc the are more post emo leaning twords of prudced pice of crap sell outs now no offence to anyone who likes the i liked them along time ago then i learened about this genre and moved on realizing they wernt allt hey are cracked up to be

chek out champion good hxc band in my opinion

They Found My Naked Corpse Face Down in the Snow now that I found them through these forums. Maybe a little more towards scream but still amazing.

^ that would be a defining style of the genre