Noel Gallagher Has a Boring Taste in Music

**Marie Monday** · 01-02-2023, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I just don't get it. It's not as if he doesn't like aggressive music, and metal isn't a small genre. If he didn't like Polka, or whatever the **** joanna newsom is/was doing, ok sure. And to like Prog but not metal.

I smell posturing.

You're thinking too simplistically about this. Punk and metal are abrasive in very different ways, saying it's logical to like both because they're both agressive is almost like saying liking both makes sense because they're both guitar-centered genres. The same goes for prog and metal.
But you're right the Elph acts like a childish poseur about metal, sure

rubber soul · 01-02-2023, 08:03 AM

I agree with Marie. I'm a big fan of punk but metal in general (with some exceptions obviously) just doesn't do it for me. I mean I can get into something like AC/DC or Motorhead, but keep me away from that glam metal (and this from a glam rock fan).

**Janszoon** · 01-02-2023, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

You're thinking too simplistically about this. Punk and metal are abrasive in very different ways, saying it's logical to like both because they're both agressive is almost like saying liking both makes sense because they're both guitar-centered genres. The same goes for prog and metal.
But you're right the Elph acts like a childish poseur about metal, sure

I don’t know. As a fan of both punk and metal, I’d say there’s a decent amount of overlap between the two. Crust punk, powerviolence, grindcore, sludge metal, crossover thrash, and metalcore all have DNA from both for example.

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

I agree with Marie. I'm a big fan of punk but metal in general (with some exceptions obviously) just doesn't do it for me. I mean I can into something like AC/DC or Motorhead, but keep me away from that glam metal (and this from a glam rock fan).

Motörhead is a great example of a band that straddles the line between punk and metal imo. Also, I’m not a super into glam metal but it’s pretty clear that bands like Motley Crue are more directly descended from Johnny Thunders than from Black Sabbath.

Trollheart · 01-02-2023, 09:28 AM

I can also see the line. I'm only recently (last 10 years or so) getting a little more into the more extreme metal, and slowly inching my toes over the border to Punkland, but I've never been into punk, so by your reasoning it would be taken as read that because I'm into metal I should be into punk. I'm not, or I wasn't - recently I've come a little bit more to appreciate some of it - so it doesn't also follow the elph would be into metal. However, that said, to dismiss the whole genre as crap is about as stupid a statement as me saying jazz is awful cos I don't like it. Everything should be given a chance and no genre should be lumped all together as one; there are, as we all know, subtleties within the various sub-genres of metal that are breathtaking. Who would compare, for instance, Iron Maiden to Blut Aus Nord, or Slayer to Draconian? Yet they're all part of the one overall genre known as heavy metal. And what about its precursor, hard/heavy rock? Does he not like Purple or Zep either? Bad Company? Blue Cheer? Blue Oyster Cult? And so on.

**Frownland** · 01-02-2023, 09:58 AM

Is all the Genesis talk an attempt to outdo Noel's boring taste?

Queen Boo · 01-02-2023, 10:16 AM

No we're just a bunch of nerds who really like Genesis.

And Noel hates Genesis which makes it even funnier.

**Marie Monday** · 01-02-2023, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I don’t know. As a fan of both punk and metal, I’d say there’s a decent amount of overlap between the two. Crust punk, powerviolence, grindcore, sludge metal, crossover thrash, and metalcore all have DNA from both for example.

Sure, there is plenty of overlap. But I don't think it follows that the genres have enough in common that liking the one implies liking the other

Comus · 01-02-2023, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Then again, remember, I'm the guy who doesn't rate Close to the Edge!!!!!!!

Of all the utterly baffling and terrible takes in this thread this is the most wrong any human can be about music. I was reading through ready to roast yall but I deleted everything when I read this.

Close to the Edge is the album that justifies the existence of music, and therefore humanity as a whole. We should all be grateful that we are allowed to exist in the same timeline as such perfection.

Queen Boo · 01-02-2023, 12:07 PM

Close to the Edge is quite possibly my favorite album of all time but I can't fault anyone for not liking it, I've come to accept that nothing is for everyone, especially when it comes to progressive rock.

Could you imagine if everybody liked prog? That would be so weird, wrong even.

Trollheart · 01-02-2023, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Comus

Of all the utterly baffling and terrible takes in this thread this is the most wrong any human can be about music. I was reading through ready to roast yall but I deleted everything when I read this.

Close to the Edge is the album that justifies the existence of music, and therefore humanity as a whole. We should all be grateful that we are allowed to exist in the same timeline as such perfection.

No. NO NO NO and a thousand times NO! This is the crap that drives me mad! I have listened to CTTE a few times and every time I do I like it less and fail to see what is so damned good about it that it seems proggers get married and wank to it and will probably have it played, in its entirety, without any breaks at their funeral. I can recognise the appeal it has but for me I do not get it, and anyone who tries to force me to like it, or who intimates I am less of a prog head, music fan or alien invader masquerading as a hum - uh, I mean, human being, definitely human being, not any sort of alien, no no not at all, forget you heard that - bugs the hell out of me. Get over it, Mr. C. Some people have other tastes, and while I can appreciate Yes, I do not appreciate this album, and while it may win every damn award in progland there is, none of that will make me say oh wow what an album, what a revelation where was this all my life etc.

God.
Damn.
It.

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo

Close to the Edge is quite possibly my favorite album of all time but I can't fault anyone for not liking it, I've come to accept that nothing is for everyone, especially when it comes to progressive rock.

Could you imagine if everybody liked prog? That would be so weird, wrong even.

Yeah, they get it. This is the sort of attitude I can live with. I'm not saying it's not a classic prog album or doesn't deserve its rep, but it just bores me and that's me personally. I'm under no obligation to love or adore it. And I don't.

01-02-2023, 09:28 AM	#64 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	I can also see the line. I'm only recently (last 10 years or so) getting a little more into the more extreme metal, and slowly inching my toes over the border to Punkland, but I've never been into punk, so by your reasoning it would be taken as read that because I'm into metal I should be into punk. I'm not, or I wasn't - recently I've come a little bit more to appreciate some of it - so it doesn't also follow the elph would be into metal. However, that said, to dismiss the whole genre as crap is about as stupid a statement as me saying jazz is awful cos I don't like it. Everything should be given a chance and no genre should be lumped all together as one; there are, as we all know, subtleties within the various sub-genres of metal that are breathtaking. Who would compare, for instance, Iron Maiden to Blut Aus Nord, or Slayer to Draconian? Yet they're all part of the one overall genre known as heavy metal. And what about its precursor, hard/heavy rock? Does he not like Purple or Zep either? Bad Company? Blue Cheer? Blue Oyster Cult? And so on. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

01-02-2023, 09:58 AM	#65 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Is all the Genesis talk an attempt to outdo Noel's boring taste? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x