MB Album Club 2022

jadis · 07-01-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

Don't use racial slurs even in jest mate

Was it hard-R or soft-A though? A world of difference...

Trollheart · 07-01-2022, 12:56 PM

Soft A, but then I'm not black so that's fair enough. I will now embark on a crusade to change that word to "black compatriots". Can you see it now? Instead of NWA it will be BCWA, instead of [censored] on the Moon it'll be Black Compatriots on the Moon, and so on...

rubber soul · 07-01-2022, 02:00 PM

You realize, of course, that if you joked around about racial epitaphs around an African- American, you'd get your ass kicked, right?

SGR · 07-01-2022, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

You realize, of course, that if you joked around about racial epitaphs around an African- American, you'd get your ass kicked, right?

Racial epitaphs? I thought we were talking about the N-word, not the holocaust

Trollheart · 07-01-2022, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

You realize, of course, that if you joked around about racial epitaphs around an African- American, you'd get your ass kicked, right?

You do realise that the internet and real-life are two different things, yes? For instance, I don't go around dragging a couch behind which I can hide, so far as you know.

rubber soul · 07-02-2022, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SGR

Racial epitaphs? I thought we were talking about the N-word, not the holocaust

To African-Americans, a white person using that word would be about the same as the holocaust.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You do realise that the internet and real-life are two different things, yes? For instance, I don't go around dragging a couch behind which I can hide, so far as you know.

Ever read any Twitter feeds? Peoples' careers have been ruined for taking that word lightly.

Anyway, I'm off my soapbox. Who else wants to review SGR's mix?

Lisnaholic · 07-02-2022, 08:04 AM

Yes, I would welcome a return to the thread topic after that little digression, rubbersoul, and here's my ten cents review:-

Kream presents Liquid: Lab vol 5

Thanks for the heads up about this being unlike other albums posted here, SGR. In fact I found myself focusing on the format more than the music really, because I don’t often use music like this: listening to 45 mins of non-stop up-tempo beatz. I felt it was doing strange things to my head.

Once I figured out the format that I was in for, I was (i) pleased with the smooth electronic transitions between the extracts and (ii) impressed that it was possible to run so many songs together so seamlessly. I liked the fact that no song stayed around long enough to get irritating, but the downside of this was that nothing really left any impression: the vocalists all blurred together to me, I felt no obligation to follow the lyrics, and as soon as one vocal bit was over it was immediately forgotten as the dj guys moved relentlessly on to the next. There was no breathing space in which to reflect on the music, although, in an attempt to hang on to some detail, on one run-through I wrote down “15 mins” and “22 mins” as standout moments. They were high points imo - or at least they were distinguishable in a good way from the rest. Also, to the credit of Kream's skills, there were no bits that which I actually disliked at all.

In summary, it felt like an agreeable wash of sound that I might put on for a special purpose. As I am among friends, I'm prepared to confess that I'm unlikely to be dancing all night, disco style, in the near future; a more probable scenario is that I will play Liquid: Lab vol 5 next time I'm doing housework to see if it energizes me enough to get a real mirror-finish polish on those kitchen floor tiles. -which leads me to my last comment about the format: I found myself listening to Kream the way I used to listen to pop radio stations: turn it on for a while, then turn it off when you’ve had enough, with no sense of listening to a piece of music with beginning, middle or end.

A very interesting listening experience for me because it’s the kind of music I usually avoid; you have encouraged me to set aside a prejudice, SGR. Thanks. 6.5/10

SGR · 07-02-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Yes, I would welcome a return to the thread topic after that little digression, rubbersoul, and here's my ten cents review:-

Kream presents Liquid: Lab vol 5

Thanks for the heads up about this being unlike other albums posted here, SGR. In fact I found myself focusing on the format more than the music really, because I don’t often use music like this: listening to 45 mins of non-stop up-tempo beatz. I felt it was doing strange things to my head.

Once I figured out the format that I was in for, I was (i) pleased with the smooth electronic transitions between the extracts and (ii) impressed that it was possible to run so many songs together so seamlessly. I liked the fact that no song stayed around long enough to get irritating, but the downside of this was that nothing really left any impression: the vocalists all blurred together to me, I felt no obligation to follow the lyrics, and as soon as one vocal bit was over it was immediately forgotten as the dj guys moved relentlessly on to the next. There was no breathing space in which to reflect on the music, although, in an attempt to hang on to some detail, on one run-through I wrote down “15 mins” and “22 mins” as standout moments. They were high points imo - or at least they were distinguishable in a good way from the rest. Also, to the credit of Kream's skills, there were no bits that which I actually disliked at all.

In summary, it felt like an agreeable wash of sound that I might put on for a special purpose. As I am among friends, I'm prepared to confess that I'm unlikely to be dancing all night, disco style, in the near future; a more probable scenario is that I will play Liquid: Lab vol 5 next time I'm doing housework to see if it energizes me enough to get a real mirror-finish polish on those kitchen floor tiles. -which leads me to my last comment about the format: I found myself listening to Kream the way I used to listen to pop radio stations: turn it on for a while, then turn it off when you’ve had enough, with no sense of listening to a piece of music with beginning, middle or end.

A very interesting listening experience for me because it’s the kind of music I usually avoid; you have encouraged me to set aside a prejudice, SGR. Thanks. 6.5/10

Now that's what it's all about right there.

I think house music is highly underappreciated on MB. And I'm a self-admitted house junkie

Trollheart · 07-02-2022, 11:02 AM

Wassa difference between house and trance though?

SGR · 07-02-2022, 11:22 AM

There's a few differences. Firstly, house came first (70s) - and it came from America (trance came from Europe in the 90s), specifically the underground black clubs in Chicago (the Warehouse club in Chicago is where the genre got its name) - its culture was one of acceptance and unity and celebration, including gays, which was different for the time.

Trance is typically faster at around 150 bpm, while house usually sits somewhere around 120 bpm. Trance is much more synth-heavy than house and focuses much more on the 'build-up' and 'release' if that makes sense. The bass kicks and four on the floor beats that drive house songs are not always present in trance - especially during the 'release' part of the songs where you usually get a lot of synth noodling. House music is much more focused on vocals and vocal cutups than trance music is - a lot of trance doesn't have vocals at all - this happens in house music, but it's not as common.

Described another way, if you're out with friends and you've all been drinking and want to go to a show and dance, you're probably going to a house show.

If you were instead all pretty high, and wanted to vibe a little bit more in your head and dance (or slowly nod your head and shuffle), you may prefer a trance show.

Compare two classics of the genres and see the differences yourself:

Robin S - Show Me Love (House):

Robert Miles - Children (Trance):

07-01-2022, 12:56 PM	#352 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Soft A, but then I'm not black so that's fair enough. I will now embark on a crusade to change that word to "black compatriots". Can you see it now? Instead of NWA it will be BCWA, instead of [censored] on the Moon it'll be Black Compatriots on the Moon, and so on... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-02-2022, 08:04 AM	#357 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Yes, I would welcome a return to the thread topic after that little digression, rubbersoul, and here's my ten cents review:- Kream presents Liquid: Lab vol 5 Thanks for the heads up about this being unlike other albums posted here, SGR. In fact I found myself focusing on the format more than the music really, because I don’t often use music like this: listening to 45 mins of non-stop up-tempo beatz. I felt it was doing strange things to my head. Once I figured out the format that I was in for, I was (i) pleased with the smooth electronic transitions between the extracts and (ii) impressed that it was possible to run so many songs together so seamlessly. I liked the fact that no song stayed around long enough to get irritating, but the downside of this was that nothing really left any impression: the vocalists all blurred together to me, I felt no obligation to follow the lyrics, and as soon as one vocal bit was over it was immediately forgotten as the dj guys moved relentlessly on to the next. There was no breathing space in which to reflect on the music, although, in an attempt to hang on to some detail, on one run-through I wrote down “15 mins” and “22 mins” as standout moments. They were high points imo - or at least they were distinguishable in a good way from the rest. Also, to the credit of Kream's skills, there were no bits that which I actually disliked at all. In summary, it felt like an agreeable wash of sound that I might put on for a special purpose. As I am among friends, I'm prepared to confess that I'm unlikely to be dancing all night, disco style, in the near future; a more probable scenario is that I will play Liquid: Lab vol 5 next time I'm doing housework to see if it energizes me enough to get a real mirror-finish polish on those kitchen floor tiles. -which leads me to my last comment about the format: I found myself listening to Kream the way I used to listen to pop radio stations: turn it on for a while, then turn it off when you’ve had enough, with no sense of listening to a piece of music with beginning, middle or end. A very interesting listening experience for me because it’s the kind of music I usually avoid; you have encouraged me to set aside a prejudice, SGR. Thanks. 6.5/10 __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953 Last edited by Lisnaholic; 07-02-2022 at 08:11 AM.

07-02-2022, 11:02 AM	#359 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Wassa difference between house and trance though? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-02-2022, 11:22 AM	#360 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	There's a few differences. Firstly, house came first (70s) - and it came from America (trance came from Europe in the 90s), specifically the underground black clubs in Chicago (the Warehouse club in Chicago is where the genre got its name) - its culture was one of acceptance and unity and celebration, including gays, which was different for the time. Trance is typically faster at around 150 bpm, while house usually sits somewhere around 120 bpm. Trance is much more synth-heavy than house and focuses much more on the 'build-up' and 'release' if that makes sense. The bass kicks and four on the floor beats that drive house songs are not always present in trance - especially during the 'release' part of the songs where you usually get a lot of synth noodling. House music is much more focused on vocals and vocal cutups than trance music is - a lot of trance doesn't have vocals at all - this happens in house music, but it's not as common. Described another way, if you're out with friends and you've all been drinking and want to go to a show and dance, you're probably going to a house show. If you were instead all pretty high, and wanted to vibe a little bit more in your head and dance (or slowly nod your head and shuffle), you may prefer a trance show. Compare two classics of the genres and see the differences yourself: Robin S - Show Me Love (House): Robert Miles - Children (Trance):