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Old 12-14-2021, 02:06 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Saying "that dude is a rapist" is fine if you live in a society of a hundred people, or a thousand. It doesn't when you have to put up with 300M of other citizens who you know **** about.

Also: it's not "my standards", it's the standards that the society had put on us, so that we can all live in a sort-of-harmony
Holding public opinion to court standards so that everyone just throws their hands up without doing anything definitely benefits rapists.



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Maybe so, but that's the price you've got to pay in order to live in a society
Watch me not hold my opinion to legal standards and exist in society just fine...
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:09 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Yeah, you clearly missed my point

I see no point in further having this conversation,

I'm sorry
I'd much rather go and listen to some Beatles bootlegs

I'm sorry (sincerely)
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:13 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Yeah, you clearly missed my point
Not really, I'm just looking at the functional outcome of what said abstracted stances have historically led to in a way that you don't seem to want to.
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:21 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I wasn't talking about the "public opinion"

If that was what I was talking about, then MJ would've long been in jail.
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:22 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:28 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I wasn't talking about the "public opinion"

If that was what I was talking about, then MJ would've long been in jail.
This whole convo was started because someone saying he was a pedophile and you responding that it was only an allegation...idunno maybe you have a different understanding of what public opinion is than I do.
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:29 PM   #87 (permalink)
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This whole convo was started because someone saying he was a pedophile and you responding that it was only an allegation...idunno maybe you have a different understanding of what public opinion is than I do.
Public opinion = he's a pedophile
Facts = allegedly he was a pedophile
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:30 PM   #88 (permalink)
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Public opinion = he's a pedophile
Facts = allegedly he was a pedophile
Statement A + Statement B = Claims of pedophilia are not factual

Sounds like taking a side on the matter to me.
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Old 12-14-2021, 02:33 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Statement A + Statement B = Claims of pedophilia are not factual

Sounds like taking a side on the matter to me.
Claims of pedophilia are not proven

But, as Dan Rather says, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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