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12-13-2021, 09:45 PM | #61 (permalink) | |
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Volbeat are like if Disturbed tried to be a power metal band right?
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12-14-2021, 11:10 AM | #62 (permalink) | |
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12-14-2021, 12:26 PM | #66 (permalink) | ||
Go ahead, Mr. Wendal
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I feel utterly offended by this.
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It's one sided. It was basically made to lynch an acquitted person. And you know - ta da da - the lawsuits topped after the court decided that the Jackson Estate isn't responsible for whatever Jackson himself did (ergo: no money if the trial is won by the prosecutor). Soo it wasn't really about the truth. Quote:
There's no dispute about that. But look at what the troubles were: He didn't really have a childhood, he was a trained monkey from day one. After he had grown up these traumas where still inside his subconscious. Therefore spending time with 10 year old kids was what he liked, because he really was a 10 year old boy inside. Apart from the testimonies of sexual abuse, you have testimonies of people saying the accusations are absurd. (Btw the same people who testify under oath in 2013 that he abused them, are the same people who testified under oath in 1993 or 1994 that he didn't) Because he was at one time the most famous person in the world, and because, when he was the most famous peron in the world, he did some disturbing things (like the whole thing with changing his skin colour – which ended up in him looking like a zombie), it's easy for people to believe he was disturbing and evil in general. It's not "giving a pass". It's "not ****ting over someone until it's proven they did something wrong" And, no, two or three testimonies from "alleged victims" is not enough. Especially when it comes to a public person. |
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12-14-2021, 12:29 PM | #67 (permalink) |
Go ahead, Mr. Wendal
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Now look, I'm not particularly a fan of MJs music, or a fan of him as a celebrity or whatever.
To be honest, I don't give a ****. But what I do give a **** about is people lynching and cancelling other people based on statements without grounding. And what I dislike the most is when someone says " won't lisen/watch/read anything that author did, because he was a bad person". This statement is just purely absurd, because what you're doing is basically depriving yourself from something great –you're not punishing that "evil" person. Jackson's music is great overall, and is usually fun and a really good listen. Not listening to it because allegedly he was a pedophile is absurd, because he music lives on apart from the creator. |
12-14-2021, 12:37 PM | #68 (permalink) |
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Framing pedophilic acts and false accusations as on the same level of depravity and likeliness minimizes the severity of the former and reads like it's in favour of said actions.
I wouldn't rely on the american court system for moral questions. Emmett Till's murderers were acquitted, should we ignore everything else about their crimes because of that?
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12-14-2021, 12:53 PM | #69 (permalink) | ||
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Tell me, do you think OJ was innocent? He got off too, so he must not have done it, right? Edit: Also, you're the one who's brought the "hate vibe" into the thread. Up to now it was, as it was intended to be, pretty light-hearted with some verbal fencing and a few verbal kicks in the verbal bal... ance of opinion. From my OP: Give reasons if you want but you don't have to. So anyone can vote for Jackson without explaining why. You were the one, if I recall, who demanded to know why, and now it's exploded into a whole weird defence of him when you clearly don't know what you're talking about. If Jackson had been an ordinary, non-wealthy person accused of these crimes he would be in jail now. It was only his celebrity status and his money that saved him. **** Jackson, may he rot in hell, the ****.
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