Thomas4

]I don't know how I even got to learn about this duo in this sense, I guess Im just inquisitive, generally cynical about the world and old enough to of escaped the peer pressures of blind acceptance, but after a couple of years listening to their music and purchasing CD's of this duo I have begun to sense their might be a disturbing theme attached to them.

Is there anything to it?
Am I just paranoid, misinformed or simply reading into signs that are NOT really there?
I honestly don't know because I simply haven't met anyone who firstly shares my concern, but sense the subject material is to "negative" to discuss and the duo being beyond reproach from an avid fans perspective.

Firstly Im not here to "bash" Boards of Canada. Nor do I have some personal vendetta against this music duo, or their fans or the musical genres their music falls into, it is not something I feel I can even express very well also, because Im afterall just wanting answers to the feeling I get sometimes when I have immersed myself in and amongst their musical career as a whole.
Im an avid researcher, skeptic, I like debates and discussions but this is not something fun or worthy of going into perhaps.
I searched online and found someone else had the same feelings I have and this person was ridiculed and subsequently used as an example to be mocked for having a view that as well as not being shared was insinuated to have been mentally unhinged.

I let this go. Forgetting about the whole idea as lifes more pressing issues took central focus and I figured I might of had some odd paranoid episode myself.
Im not well educated, popular even, but I am respectful and other people have expressed I do have or show intelligence. Im also a reasonable man, going into debates and entering into discussions with the intention always to listen to what people have to say either in agreement or in correction, but I know myself and know I'm not beyond havibg my mind changed or stubborn holding onto views and ideas that contradict the truth as my maim focus is to learn about myself my enviroment and other peoples opinions etc.

I visited a dedicated forum that is centred around the duo and found a couple of people on there were trying to debate something similar to what I originally thought about, these two people were basically trying to discuss things that they thought were off or clearly false about this duo and were critical about this band, one of the two people used very good clear grammar and used the duos own words to show contradictions or areas where this band were using interview quotes etc to prove the duo were lying even about specific elements of their tracks (use of samples etc). The other person (not connected to the other) mentioned "children" and my concerns have appeared once again.
Both of these people were removed from this forum and consequently as a result I cannot find these users posts on this forum, hoping to screen capture some of the discussions, which got heated and resulted in both critical forum users being removed, either for claims of defamation or not being referenced properly and thus effectively being shown to be causing something of a scene or witch hunt purely to harm the bands reputation.

Is there anyone here I could talk to or discuss my concerns with here or is this one of those discussions that simply cannot be debated (even if done respectfully between users) online, or because of the nature of the topic itself?

Thanks for reading.

rubber soul

I don't know enough about Boards of Canada to even think about discussing it. I found their music to be a bit boring to be honest.

Can you give us an example on why they could be pro-pedophilia? Like in a lyric or a more specific quote?

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Thomas4

Hi Rubber soul :-)

All the references to children just makes me ask "why?" or specifically what that could possibly do to improve or emphasise the music in or by itself or why when the music is not aimed at specifically children as the intended audience. That seems a bit strange to me at least.

I really wouldn't know where to start really if I take into account everything about this duo.
This is because firstly I don't believe any of what is promoted is by accident, I see too many references to children to be able to pass it off as simply a coincidence in my own mind anymore.

I guess Im sensing something from a culmination of multiple references to children in a strange context, as a listener to the music (being the central focus....a musical/listening experience) or never quite knowing what message the artist/s are trying to convey to me by all these references to children?

Most references being dualistic in context or purposely ambiguous, sometimes extremely negative in context.

BoC cover such "dark themes" (to use their own words) as children being killed by fire, which to me seems very odd in itself to include the worst possible harm that could visit any child and all in the name of "art" or simply to be "edgy" where the music could otherwise be enjoyed or simply listened to without these references (which are used to accompany the listening experience).

So we are already as a listener (if we accept the non music themes) immediately introduced (initiated?) into accepting harm to children by proxy and that harm being exploited to produce a theme that is expected to add something pleasant to accompany the music itself? All the requisites of Pedophilia I cannot list but showing children as faceless objects in the format of a color often synonymous with a color chosen to be worn by very young boys at baby or toddler stage.
Or am I being paranoid? Illogical? Seeing something there that isn't?

That is just as a starting point because I really don't know how to explain that logically (certainly not emotionally).

Trollheart

I know virtually nothing about BOC but I think their "Don't Fear the Reaper" is gre - oh, wait. You mean the other BOC!

Seriously, I doubt you can ascribe feelings or themes of paedophilia without having very good examples, and the idea of children being killed by fire (the only one you cited) does not seem like it would be enough in itself. Are they not just trying to highlight (if anything) how cruel the world is for and to children? I mean, Black Sabbath have a song called "Children of the Grave", but nobody ever directed this accusation/assumption in their direction. Ditto with Marillion, who wrote an entire album based on the rape of a teenager but nobody accuses them of being paedophiles. On the other hand, Lostprophets did NOT write about such things and yet had a paedophile singer.

So I think it's probably important to separate the art from the personalities, the fantasy (if any) from the reality, and not to read too much into what could be a simple message in a song not meant to convey anything more than a fictional account or a comment on society.

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rostasi

There’s a select bunch of assholes who have so little time on their hands who indulge in all kinda of creep catching online that you have to ask why, if you aren’t one of them, you want to goad them (or their proclivities) on towards fully spreading their mental diarrhea further. Having the whole of the Internet at their disposal, anyone with dark proclivities can concoct a whole panoply of sheer bullshit by using all kinds of combinations of symbolic nonsense to come to bizarre conclusions. Those about BOC (and I couldn’t care less about them) are in all kinds of nefarious places online. I’m sure you can waste plenty of time spinning fantasies in places like that without fear of being kicked off if screwing up your psyche is what you’re into.

Also, think of this:
What possible good will it do you if your suspicious ideas about them are fulfilled?
Are you gonna call the FBI?
You gonna go over to their house and punch them in the nads?

Find something in life that’s less bullshitty.

Don’t you have a dinner date with someone?

Tubeileh

Your long paragraph made it seem like you are a reasonable fellow, and I understand you want to start the conversation. However, your actual evidence or points are very ambiguous and also not very plentiful (really only one point). Make some more direct points (as rubber soul said, direct quotes or statements) and then we can talk.

However, I disagree with rostasi, or at least with the second part of his statment. I think it is still important to discuss these things. I mean this whole forum is to discuss music, which has no practical value. Even if it is proven that they are pedos, and even if then nothing is done about it, I still think it was important that it was discussed.

rostasi

There are lines and lines of weirdo ideas about BOC’s lyrics, artworks,
supposed intentions, etc. online. Not hard to find.
But why do you seem to think that it’s somehow important to discuss?
What kind of conclusions do you think will be arrived at that somehow
will be beneficial in the long run (or even the short run) to any reasonable
human being whether they think music has or has no practical value?
(I guess if anyone cares, they could ask what your criteria are for “practical value”).

Trollheart

The thing is, as rostasi said (in a slightly more angry tone than I would use), in this conspiracy-happy world we're living in, almost anything can be made out of almost anything. People have lived happily for years with ideas that Paul McCartney is dead and replaced by an imposter, that Jim Morrison was killed, and so forth. But the worst kind of conspiracy theory (let's call them, oh I don't know, Trumpspiracies!) are the kind that have no basis at all, offer no cogent argument to their - usually wild - claims, and have nothing to back them up. I'm not saying this is what the OP is doing, but, without being familiar with this band, I fail to see where he has come to his conclusions about Boards of Canada (who said Bored of Canada? Get outta here!) so until something more concrete and believable is advanced, this remains, for me anyway, an exercise in "don't-you-thinkism" rather than any serious attempt to uncover what ros calls "nefarious activity", and therefore really doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

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rostasi

I’m not in the least bit angry.

adidasss

Seems like it. The question is why. A topic for your psychologist maybe.

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