The end of musical innovation

The Batlord · 08-16-2021, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

The 1980s sucked for music. Synth everything, gated drums, Midwestern Rock, atmospheric guitars...it's so god awful.

How you gonna hate 80s synthwave?

The Batlord · 08-16-2021, 01:57 PM

Dumb as a brick.

YoshiMadness · 08-16-2021, 03:35 PM

You can tell someone only listens to top 40 music when they say stupid shit like "innovation is dead" or there's "no creativity in music anymore." There's always new things you can do, always weird ideas to try out, and lesser known and underground artists are constantly pushing boundaries.

Get over yourself. You're not special just because you're old.

Neapolitan · 08-16-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

that's such an innacurate summation of probably the most varied decade for music there will ever be in terms of the commercial viability of artists

classic rock, punk, hip hop, electronic, funk, metal, prog... everything was booming

the industry was printing money and as a result so many artists were able to get just enough to put out a seminal release

the whole vibe was looking for the music of the future in the aftermath of punk and that meant a lot of gimmicks and misfires sure, but even that ends up carrying its own charm in retrospect

that's why the 80s are in perpetual revival and basically have never been superceded

What do you mean the "aftermath of punk?" You say that like Punk didn't exist after '77. What about 80s' Hardcore Punk, that never existed?

The way you say "gimmick and misfires sure" makes you sound like an infomercial. Are you talking music or are you Vince Shlomi on the QVC channel???

~~jwb~~ · 08-17-2021, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

that's such an innacurate summation of probably the most varied decade for music there will ever be in terms of the commercial viability of artists

classic rock, punk, hip hop, electronic, funk, metal, prog... everything was booming

the industry was printing money and as a result so many artists were able to get just enough to put out a seminal release

the whole vibe was looking for the music of the future in the aftermath of punk and that meant a lot of gimmicks and misfires sure, but even that ends up carrying its own charm in retrospect

that's why the 80s are in perpetual revival and basically have never been superceded

the 1980s is when we peaked in general as a nation. Just like any other addict, when we first discovered cocaine in the early 80s it seemed like a gateway to infinite potential. But by the time we started cooking it into crack by the late 80s that spelled the beginning of the end....

Neapolitan · 08-17-2021, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the sheer amount of delicious punk/post-punk dropped in '81 mannn...it's unbelievable

Say what you want of me ...
At least I don't sound like Martha Stewart talking about Punk/Post-Punk.

~~jwb~~ · 08-18-2021, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Say what you want of me ...
At least I don't sound like Martha Stewart talking about Punk/Post-Punk.

Damn. Shots fired.

TheBig3 · 08-17-2021, 10:01 PM

Aerosmith is christ awful. I like maybe 3 songs.
Boston, J. Giles, and the Cars are great but I think of them as 70's bands, and what did come out in the 80s, iirc sucked. Like "Drive" and "Amanda."
The Lemonheads are fine. The version of Shame About Ray from Letterman is way better than the album version.
MtB and the Hardcore bands, can't say I've heard them.
Did Til Tuesday have Aimee Mann? Love her.

Also I guess I should add, their being from Boston doesn't make me like the music any more.

jadis · 08-18-2021, 10:03 AM

I like the idea of trying to chronicle the Boston scene in the 1980s and never mentioning Pixies. A brave choice.

TheBig3 · 08-18-2021, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jadis

I like the idea of trying to chronicle the Boston scene in the 1980s and never mentioning Pixies. A brave choice.

See that's a band I'd give you. Pixies are solid and a source of Bostonian pride. And Frank Black is the right amount of Piece of ****.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	Aerosmith is christ awful. I like maybe 3 songs. Boston, J. Giles, and the Cars are great but I think of them as 70's bands, and what did come out in the 80s, iirc sucked. Like "Drive" and "Amanda." The Lemonheads are fine. The version of Shame About Ray from Letterman is way better than the album version. MtB and the Hardcore bands, can't say I've heard them. Did Til Tuesday have Aimee Mann? Love her. Also I guess I should add, their being from Boston doesn't make me like the music any more. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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YoshiMadness Groupie Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 13	You can tell someone only listens to top 40 music when they say stupid shit like "innovation is dead" or there's "no creativity in music anymore." There's always new things you can do, always weird ideas to try out, and lesser known and underground artists are constantly pushing boundaries. Get over yourself. You're not special just because you're old.

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jadis Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: dont ask Posts: 1,422	I like the idea of trying to chronicle the Boston scene in the 1980s and never mentioning Pixies. A brave choice.