(On hiatus!) Rec Me Instrumental Anything Chill

Neapolitan · 05-20-2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Wow. The lack of love or even downright hate for this record is unbelievable.

Especially since it’s unbelievably good. Thanks

Ron Carter Meets Bach is one of my atf instrumental albums. I can't believe how salty this guy was:

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Originally Posted by thomas hogan

Utter ...
Reviewed in the United States on January 4, 2003
Mastery of baroque music? Comparing this album to even the worst release by any professional classical musician is like comparing the literary value of the babbles of an agitated goat to that of Hamlet. With this recording, Ron Carter gives us an accurate picture of who he is: no longer the great bassist who accompanied Miles Davis, but an arrogant fool who at some point decided that any piece of ... that he recorded was worthy of mass distribution.
I am hesitant to submit this review because I do not think that words can adequately capture just how bad this recording really is. Let me start by saying that Ron's intonation is so terrible that the only thing that could prepare me for it would be a sticker on the front reading "Ron Carter's first release since he switched to playing lefty." His arco technique is almost as bad; it sounds as if he used a stick of crazy glue instead of rosin.
The Arioso did not move me "to tears", but rather to a feeling of sea sickness; in several spots I could swear he's actually trying to modulate. Ron's rendition of the "Air" had me examining the CD for warping. His improvising on several pieces shows an almost unfathomable lack of focus; it consisted of Ron's typical arsenal of semi-slick sounding bass tricks removed from the usual jazz context and forced awkwardly in between two Bach pieces. At several points he clearly runs out of stuff to play, pauses, and then resumes his flurries of gibberish and gratuitous glissandos. I could go on but suffice it to say that there is not a single redeeming moment on this whole album.
Ron, if you're reading, you owe me 15 bucks.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-r...SIN=B01K8R6L8O

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Well

This wraps up this experiment

Thanks for the suggestions everyone

Thanks for this thread. I don't always get the chance to share albums and get feedback telling me they enjoyed them too.

OccultHawk · 05-20-2020, 07:45 PM

You know jazz dudes often take heat for branching into classical

Parker with Strings, which is gorgeously orchestrated got lots of heat

It often strikes me as racial stay in your lane bs

Another odd thing is from the Baroque period through to the Romantic period it was commonplace to composers/performers to improvise but now there’s this uptight rigid approach to classical music that’s not even traditionally rooted

Real jazz interpretations of classical works are way to few and far between

And performers should be taking far more more liberties more often especially with romantic era composers. A contemporary pianist has no reason not to break into atonal interpretations when playing Chopin and Liszt for example. I mean to the modern ear the endless arpeggios do get tedious there’s no reason not to pepper the performances with some dissonance and atonality. The entire myth that you can’t rewrite this stuff is bull****. Of course you can.

**Frownland** · 05-20-2020, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You know jazz dudes often take heat for branching into classical

Parker with Strings, which is gorgeously orchestrated got lots of heat

It often strikes me as racial stay in your lane bs

I always found the distinction unnecessary, but damn that makes a lot of sense.

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Another odd thing is from the Baroque period through to the Romantic period it was commonplace to composers/performers to improvise but now there’s this uptight rigid approach to classical music that’s not even traditionally rooted

Real jazz interpretations of classical works are way to few and far between

And performers should be taking far more more liberties more often especially with romantic era composers. A contemporary pianist has no reason not to break into atonal interpretations when playing Chopin and Liszt for example. I mean to the modern ear the endless arpeggios do get tedious there’s no reason not to pepper the performances with some dissonance and atonality. The entire myth that you can’t rewrite this stuff is bull****. Of course you can.

Church. Big ass steeple. I'd kill to see a Mozart performance with a badass pianist taking a lot of liberties with it. I bet Mozart would too.

grindy · 05-21-2020, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

You know jazz dudes often take heat for branching into classical

Parker with Strings, which is gorgeously orchestrated got lots of heat

It often strikes me as racial stay in your lane bs

Another odd thing is from the Baroque period through to the Romantic period it was commonplace to composers/performers to improvise but now there’s this uptight rigid approach to classical music that’s not even traditionally rooted

Real jazz interpretations of classical works are way to few and far between

And performers should be taking far more more liberties more often especially with romantic era composers. A contemporary pianist has no reason not to break into atonal interpretations when playing Chopin and Liszt for example. I mean to the modern ear the endless arpeggios do get tedious there’s no reason not to pepper the performances with some dissonance and atonality. The entire myth that you can’t rewrite this stuff is bull****. Of course you can.

Damn, I would absolutely love Chopin or Bach broken up with some dissonant improv. Anyone knows about something like this out there?

OccultHawk · 05-21-2020, 03:59 AM

Have y’all heard Gabriela Montero?

I like what she has done but it’s not what I’m describing. Still worth checking out

Drjohnrock · 05-28-2020, 04:57 PM

Herbie Mann--Live At The Whiskey A Go-Go

It has two long songs on it. I like Philly Dog much more than the other one. However, your mileage may very.

Neapolitan · 05-29-2020, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Drjohnrock

Herbie Mann--Live At The Whiskey A Go-Go

It has two long songs on it. I like Philly Dog much more than the other one. However, your mileage may very.

I think OH either stopped it completely or went on a hiatus for an undetermined amount of time. So I'll say it:
Thanks. I listened to it.

Cool Jazz vibraphones, Austen Powers flutes with break beat drums throughout. The guitar solo lies somewhere between Link Wray and Acid Rock via SF e.g. BB&THCo.

OccultHawk · 05-29-2020, 06:26 PM

Ftr - I posted exactly when I felt like it was at my limit.

I didn’t give up. I listened to every recommendation up to that point. I know it’s unusual to read an entire thread but I kept my end of the bargain and enjoyed the recommendations.

Neapolitan · 05-29-2020, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Ftr - I posted exactly when I felt like it was at my limit.

I didn’t give up. I listened to every recommendation up to that point. I know it’s unusual to read an entire thread but I kept my end of the bargain and enjoyed the recommendations.

Sorry, I didn't mean to put it that way.

Drjohnrock · 05-29-2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I think OH either stopped it completely or went on a hiatus for an undetermined amount of time. So I'll say it:
Thanks. I listened to it.

Cool Jazz vibraphones, Austen Powers flutes with break beat drums throughout. The guitar solo lies somewhere between Link Wray and Acid Rock via SF e.g. BB&THCo.

Appreciate your comments. The guitarist was Sonny Sharrock.

05-20-2020, 07:45 PM	#132 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	You know jazz dudes often take heat for branching into classical Parker with Strings, which is gorgeously orchestrated got lots of heat It often strikes me as racial stay in your lane bs Another odd thing is from the Baroque period through to the Romantic period it was commonplace to composers/performers to improvise but now there’s this uptight rigid approach to classical music that’s not even traditionally rooted Real jazz interpretations of classical works are way to few and far between And performers should be taking far more more liberties more often especially with romantic era composers. A contemporary pianist has no reason not to break into atonal interpretations when playing Chopin and Liszt for example. I mean to the modern ear the endless arpeggios do get tedious there’s no reason not to pepper the performances with some dissonance and atonality. The entire myth that you can’t rewrite this stuff is bull****. Of course you can. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

05-21-2020, 03:59 AM	#135 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Have y’all heard Gabriela Montero? I like what she has done but it’s not what I’m describing. Still worth checking out __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

05-29-2020, 06:26 PM	#138 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Ftr - I posted exactly when I felt like it was at my limit. I didn’t give up. I listened to every recommendation up to that point. I know it’s unusual to read an entire thread but I kept my end of the bargain and enjoyed the recommendations. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

05-28-2020, 04:57 PM	#136 (permalink)
Drjohnrock Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 377	Herbie Mann--Live At The Whiskey A Go-Go It has two long songs on it. I like Philly Dog much more than the other one. However, your mileage may very.