Is Western Music Actually Interesting or Is It Just Picking Influence Off the $ Menu?

**Frownland** · 01-01-2020, 09:14 PM

Check out this free jazz album, it's pretty exciting

Tristan_Geoff · 01-01-2020, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Check out this free jazz album, it's pretty exciting

lol

good album tho

**Frownland** · 01-01-2020, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

what are the odds that the majority of your favorite artists are going to come specifically from whatever is considered the "modern" whether that's today or this past year or 5

Or in the history of recorded music or within genres that you wouldn't usually explore. What are the odds that the your favourite artists of the past that have (for lack of a better phrase) stood the test of time are your favourite artists from their respective era? If the people who crossed their arms and declared modern music to be a farce have historically been dead wrong, why should that same curmudgeonism hold any water in 2019 2?

**Frownland** · 01-01-2020, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

refreshing the daily releases page and listening to all that **** is crazy to me though

And not even necessary.

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my tastes expand out more organically?

Getting you to think that is, as you say, just another marketing ploy.

**Frownland** · 01-01-2020, 10:28 PM

I think that people shouldn't waste their time making posts on the internet unless they have something interesting to say, and that standards for art/artists/artistry is as much of a Nazi tactic as banning jazz.

Lucem Ferre · 01-01-2020, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

you actively don't know the first thing about what they want to listen to. You're just here to trick people into listening to your cutesy spam.

No, Frown has gave me some thoughtful suggestions based on what I already like.

One of the few artists he's recommended to me was Show Me The Body and it was absolutely what I wanted to listen to. He knew it.

OccultHawk · 01-02-2020, 12:05 AM

Bat is getting older and can’t keep up with new music so he’s doing the music sucks these days thing that old people start doing before they stop listening to music altogether. He’s also pissed because he let the best year ever pass him by while he wasted his time working, drinking, and ironically adding 20,000 to his post count on a music forum.

Lisnaholic · 01-02-2020, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

is modern Western music actually interesting or is it just pampered artists picking influences off the dollar menu? People talk all day about the democratization of music and how it makes music better but is it just goofy white people assuming that choice means quality in the same way that goofy white people assume that choice in the market place makes for better products? Cause as far as I can tell all this choice just makes for an uninteresting smorgasbord of generic **** that no one cares about unless they're obsessed with the cultural minutiae of what artist is hot or not.

^ "Interesting," which is at the core of this question, is a very subjective term and we all know the standard answer of "Everyone is entitled to like what they like." And if anyone finds modern Western music boring, what's the problem? These days it's easy enough to move to something different: into music of the past or music of the non-West.

When I see some modern artists, I often think of a line by John B.Sebastian: "For each new person there's a new first time." He was talking about love but it applies to music too: people like to see music that's live and current, and to someone, that music will be new, even if for jaded MBer Batlord it's "an uninteresting smorgasbord of generic **** that no one cares about." (Great phrase btw!)

Plankton · 01-02-2020, 07:49 AM

Like a huge one-piece puzzle, this fits.

The Batlord · 01-02-2020, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Bat is getting older and can’t keep up with new music so he’s doing the music sucks these days thing that old people start doing before they stop listening to music altogether. He’s also pissed because he let the best year ever pass him by while he wasted his time working, drinking, and ironically adding 20,000 to his post count on a music forum.

I mean let's be honest you listen to as much music as you do because you're mentally ill.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Check out this free jazz album, it's pretty exciting __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I think that people shouldn't waste their time making posts on the internet unless they have something interesting to say, and that standards for art/artists/artistry is as much of a Nazi tactic as banning jazz. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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