Mentors

Trollheart · 11-14-2019, 06:28 AM

As a musician, and even accepting that some of you are already very proficient at what you do; if you could, who would you have as a mentor to train you to play? Living or dead. In other words, who is your musical hero or biggest influence from whom you would be willing/delighted to learn and hone your craft?

YorkeDaddy · 11-14-2019, 06:50 AM

Elliott Smith easily. He was a master on all of the traditional "rock" music instruments and is one of the most underrated guitarists of all-time for my money.

This is just one guitar track, I don't even know how he's doing it:

He has such an incredible mastery over a guitar, I could spew out gems from his discography all day

Chula Vista · 11-14-2019, 08:46 AM

After I started learning there was an older dude who moved in across the street (I was 14 so older means like maybe 19?) and he played. He turned me on to Jeff Beck who was his hero. Dude was 100% blues/rock and taught me a ton of stuff.
Years later I learned Cause We've Ended as Lovers and we played it when he was at one of our gigs.
Always wondered what it must have been like for him when I blew past the stuff he was teaching me. He was a weekend warrior while I was practicing 10 hours a day back then.

The Batlord · 11-14-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

After I started learning there was an older dude who moved in across the street (I was 14 so older means like maybe 19?) and he played. He turned me on to Jeff Beck who was his hero. Dude was 100% blues/rock and taught me a ton of stuff.
Years later I learned Cause We've Ended as Lovers and we played it when he was at one of our gigs.
Always wondered what it must have been like for him when I blew past the stuff he was teaching me. He was a weekend warrior while I was practicing 10 hours a day back then.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 11-14-2019, 05:37 PM

I've sometimes has fantasies about sitting down with Paul Simon and having him teach me some of his acoustic guitar stuff.

**Frownland** · 11-14-2019, 05:49 PM

I can see the value of a mentor for a beginner, but I would prefer the two-way influence of musically growing alongside a peer. That said, I bet I could learn oodles of good **** about inventive composition in jazz from Anthony Braxton just by spending a day talking to him (or just listening).

Neapolitan · 11-14-2019, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

As a musician, and even accepting that some of you are already very proficient at what you do; if you could, who would you have as a mentor to train you to play? Living or dead. In other words, who is your musical hero or biggest influence from whom you would be willing/delighted to learn and hone your craft?

@Trollheart You know mentors are not are only for musicians. I tried to be your "music mentor." I feel like I failed cause you act so unruly, like you don't really want to learn anything.

The Batlord · 11-14-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

@Trollheart You know mentors are not are only for musicians. I tried to be your "music mentor." I feel like I failed cause you act so unruly, like you don't really want to learn anything.

Bro have you ever heard of Zao? They're Christians.

Trollheart · 11-14-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

@Trollheart You know mentors are not are only for musicians. I tried to be your "music mentor." I feel like I failed cause you act so unruly, like you don't really want to learn anything.

Stick a "tor" in front of it and you got it.

Black Francis · 11-14-2019, 07:57 PM

Oscar Aleman or Fred Frith. Learning from either of them would surely make me a better guitar player.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	After I started learning there was an older dude who moved in across the street (I was 14 so older means like maybe 19?) and he played. He turned me on to Jeff Beck who was his hero. Dude was 100% blues/rock and taught me a ton of stuff. Years later I learned Cause We've Ended as Lovers and we played it when he was at one of our gigs. Always wondered what it must have been like for him when I blew past the stuff he was teaching me. He was a weekend warrior while I was practicing 10 hours a day back then. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I can see the value of a mentor for a beginner, but I would prefer the two-way influence of musically growing alongside a peer. That said, I bet I could learn oodles of good **** about inventive composition in jazz from Anthony Braxton just by spending a day talking to him (or just listening). __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Oscar Aleman or Fred Frith. Learning from either of them would surely make me a better guitar player. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A